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Hard News: Copyright Abuse

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  • Anorak,

    Well, sometimes even teenaged girls have good taste in music. It's not unheard of.

    Auckland • Since Apr 2007 • 61 posts Report Reply

  • stephen clover,

    Huh. Since when has bands + teenage girly fans been about the music?

    wgtn • Since Sep 2007 • 355 posts Report Reply

  • Robyn Gallagher,

    Since when has bands + teenage girly fans been about the music?

    Ruben Mint Chicks is soooo hot.

    Raglan • Since Nov 2006 • 1946 posts Report Reply

  • Anorak,

    Robyn, you're not helping my thesis that girls can like bands for the Rock as much as the Coque.

    Auckland • Since Apr 2007 • 61 posts Report Reply

  • Anorak,

    I guess I could amend it to "Girls like bands for the Rock AND for the Coque".

    Auckland • Since Apr 2007 • 61 posts Report Reply

  • stephen clover,

    Robyn, you're not helping my thesis that girls can like bands for the Rock as much as the Coque.

    LOL.

    Granted, I have known the occasional teen girl to actually like the Rock.

    wgtn • Since Sep 2007 • 355 posts Report Reply

  • The Dropkicks,

    There was some talk of RB buying we Dropkicks a beer on Saturday night...

    But to be frank, if the Dropkicks had to chose between a beer with us, and dinner and movie with our (respective) darlings?

    There wouldn't be a Dropkick in sight!

    Wellington • Since Sep 2007 • 20 posts Report Reply

  • Jeremy Andrew,

    I have known the occasional teen girl to actually like the Rock

    The genre, the radio station or the professional wrestler?

    Hamiltron - City of the F… • Since Nov 2006 • 900 posts Report Reply

  • Anorak,

    That's what they call the trifecta!

    Auckland • Since Apr 2007 • 61 posts Report Reply

  • Damian Christie,

    People on the public payroll should not use copyright to try and quell speech.

    Couldn't agree more. I've just posted a story over at Cracker about a guy who got banned from commenting on the Nat's YouTube videos simply because he didn't agree with them. The Nats need to understand if they're going to use this medium, it's a two-way street.

    http://www.publicaddress.net/cracker

    Wellington • Since Nov 2006 • 1164 posts Report Reply

  • Craig Ranapia,

    People on the public payroll should not use copyright to try and quell speech.

    Certainly not, but 'people on the public payroll' should be damn careful about the copyrights of others. I recall the Conservatives in Britian getting a strongly worded 'nastygram' from lawyers acting on behalf of Massive Attack after "The Man Next Door" was used without clearances being secured as an accompaniment to William Hague's entrance at the 2000 party conference.

    I think you can guess I'm with the dirty hippie musos on that one...

    And could you tell me exactly how Francis Till was trying to "quell speech"? Methinks there's a certain amount of drama queen faux outrage on both sides. WTF is Key's office giving a Labour hack blog publicity in the first place? And perhaps The Standard could spare us the 'our dissent iz being crushed!' routine until it actually is.

    North Shore, Auckland • Since Nov 2006 • 12370 posts Report Reply

  • kmont,

    I guess I could amend it to "Girls like bands for the Rock AND for the Coque".

    Ae.

    wellington • Since Nov 2006 • 485 posts Report Reply

  • Jeremy Andrew,

    And perhaps The Standard could spare us the 'our dissent iz being crushed!' routine until it actually is.

    Do have some inside knowledge of upcoming plots then? ;-)

    Hamiltron - City of the F… • Since Nov 2006 • 900 posts Report Reply

  • Craig Ranapia,

    I've just posted a story over at Cracker about a guy who got banned from commenting on the Nat's YouTube videos simply because he didn't agree with them.

    OK, should I start counting up the posts on PAS complaining that Kiwiblog is a cesspit of bigoted fucktards and David Farrar doesn't ban people enough?

    North Shore, Auckland • Since Nov 2006 • 12370 posts Report Reply

  • Joanna,

    I guess I could amend it to "Girls like bands for the Rock AND for the Coque

    Being talented at the rock makes the coque much more attractive.

    Wellington • Since Nov 2006 • 746 posts Report Reply

  • Robyn Gallagher,

    Robyn, you're not helping my thesis that girls can like bands for the Rock as much as the Coque.

    See, if I listen to the Mint Chicks' "Crazy? Yes! Dumb? No!" album on my iPod while I'm walking to work, it's all about the music, not how hot Ruben or Kody are.

    But if I'm watching the "Crazy? Yes! Dumb? No!" music video on the telly or the YouTube, then I can gaze into Ruben's dreamy eyes and get an extra level of enjoyment out of the song.

    Having said that, I think that video is the first one where they played up Ruben's hotness (and it suits the song). Every other video was quite arty and involved sunglasses and costumes and jumping around, and was more a visual-musical art experience than a hard-sell music video.

    Raglan • Since Nov 2006 • 1946 posts Report Reply

  • Craig Ranapia,

    Do have some inside knowledge of upcoming plots then? ;-)

    No, I just think there are any number of bloggers in Fiji, Myanmar, China (I could keep going) who much better cases to play the victim than the chaps over at The Standard. I say this from experience (and having just polished my tiara): You don't have to be a total drama queen to be a poli-blogger, but it helps. :)

    North Shore, Auckland • Since Nov 2006 • 12370 posts Report Reply

  • Russell Brown,

    __I've just posted a story over at Cracker about a guy who got banned from commenting on the Nat's YouTube videos simply because he didn't agree with them.__

    OK, should I start counting up the posts on PAS complaining that Kiwiblog is a cesspit of bigoted fucktards and David Farrar doesn't ban people enough?

    Read the comments first, Craig. They're entirely unobjectionable. And Damian's right: the person threatening the ban comes across like a power-tripping little snot.

    Auckland • Since Nov 2006 • 22756 posts Report Reply

  • Kyle Matthews,

    OK, should I start counting up the posts on PAS complaining that Kiwiblog is a cesspit of bigoted fucktards and David Farrar doesn't ban people enough?

    The difference being, kiwiblog is run by him, so it'd be his job to moderate comments if it's done.

    If you post videos to public places that aren't yours, like youtube, you should expect that people might comment on them. And it's up to youtube, not your own delicate political sensibilities, if they get moderated.

    Since Nov 2006 • 6243 posts Report Reply

  • Craig Ranapia,

    If you post videos to public places that aren't yours, like youtube, you should expect that people might comment on them. And it's up to youtube, not your own delicate political sensibilities, if they get moderated.

    Fair point, just as I'll defend any blogger who allows comments to leave up ones I personally find offensive to my 'delicate sensibilities' - political or otherwise.

    North Shore, Auckland • Since Nov 2006 • 12370 posts Report Reply

  • merc,

    the person threatening the ban comes across like a power-tripping little snot.

    But that's The Brand.

    Since Dec 2006 • 2471 posts Report Reply

  • Craig Ranapia,

    But that's The Brand.

    Really? For reasons you don't need to know about, I went looking for video of Jennifer Hudson performing 'And I Tell You I'm Not Going' and the comments were eye-wateringly scary. Let's just say Ms. Hudson has passionate fans, equally passionate detractors and putting them in a room would be messy. A more pressing issue for YouTube would be gettting rid of the p0rn spammers - if I wanted to read that kind of stuff I'd just turn off the spam filter on my e-mail. :)

    North Shore, Auckland • Since Nov 2006 • 12370 posts Report Reply

  • Robyn Gallagher,

    the person threatening the ban comes across like a power-tripping little snot.

    If wonder if the ban would have happened if the moderation had been the responsibility of Gerry Brownlee himself, or, in fact, anyone working under their own name, rather than the NZNat pseudonym.

    Raglan • Since Nov 2006 • 1946 posts Report Reply

  • Damian Christie,

    So Craig, rather than talking about Jennifer Hudson and p0rn spammers here, can I just ask for your honest opinion about NZNat banning this guy based on the comments he made?

    Wellington • Since Nov 2006 • 1164 posts Report Reply

  • Craig Ranapia,

    And I understand anyone who uploads video to YouTube has to the option of disabling comments entirely - would that also be 'crushing speech'? Serious question - because I know I/S got exactly that kind of criticism for turning off comments at No Right Turn and, in the end, I think that was completely unjustified. First, it was his call - and sadly have to agree that (to paraphrase Charlie Brooker) the bullshit-to-insight ratio was far too high. And second, there is no inalienable human right to post comments to any blog.

    North Shore, Auckland • Since Nov 2006 • 12370 posts Report Reply

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