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  • Peter Darlington,

    You'll have to delete your digital copy if you part company with the original CD. The sunset clause is gone. And the committee wants the bill amended "to make it clearer that copyright owners always have the option of contracting out of all of the permitted acts.

    Meh. May as well ban blowjobs like they did in the State of Georgia, or was it Alabama?

    Nelson • Since Nov 2006 • 949 posts Report Reply

  • Ben Gracewood,

    Double Meh. I guess now rather than fighting for sane laws, we return to our position of praying for the swift demise of the current Big Media business models?

    Are there still laws on the books protecting the rights of buggy whip manufacturers?

    Orkland • Since Nov 2006 • 168 posts Report Reply

  • Rich of Observationz,

    copyright owners always have the option of contracting out of all of the permitted acts

    I have no problem witn this provided that at the time of purchase they get a contract signed and witnessed by their agent and the purchaser.

    Back in Wellington • Since Nov 2006 • 5550 posts Report Reply

  • Russell Brown,

    I have no problem witn this provided that at the time of purchase they get a contract signed and witnessed by their agent and the purchaser.

    Good point. The status of shrink-wrap contracts is pretty much untested in NZ.

    Auckland • Since Nov 2006 • 22850 posts Report Reply

  • Lyndon Hood,

    and last i heard, small print wasn't especially binding until somebody pointed it out to you

    Wellington • Since Nov 2006 • 1115 posts Report Reply

  • Russell Brown,

    Oh, and also, the select committee seems to have missed the point on the silly ban on time-shifting programmes for which there is an on-demand alternative. So it looks like the bill will go forward with a provision that would outlaw using your PVR or VCR to record much of the schedule on TV One and TV2. Note that TVNZ specifically said in its submission that the measure was unrealistic and unnecessary. Go figure.

    Auckland • Since Nov 2006 • 22850 posts Report Reply

  • Gary Hutchings,

    We also recommend rewording section 84(1)(c) to clarify that a time-shifted recording must not be made from an on-demand
    service.

    So capturing free content streamed off the TVNZ on demand site is now forbidden. go figure,

    wellington • Since Nov 2006 • 108 posts Report Reply

  • InternationalObserver,

    and last i heard, small print wasn't especially binding until somebody pointed it out to you

    Most people aren't aware of their rights, and are easily dissuaded by statements such as "it was in the contract". As is pointed out, a contract is only a contract when both parties realise they've agreed to a contract.
    </reality check> Who among us actually reads ALL the terms and conditions before ticking "I Agree" on the internet?

    Also.
    Funny you should bring up The Simpson's On Drugs. When my child was still toddling and going thru the Noddy phase I was struck by one particular episode called "Noddy & The Magic Powder". The naughty goblins were distributing a magic powder to everyone in Toytown that rendered them incapable of doing anything except dance. They danced and danced and danced while the naughty goblins robbed the town. Obviously the writers were up to mischief - all it needed was a stomping house beat to make their point further!

    I also recently came across some YouTube vids of the old 80's TV Show Facts Of Life. It's a bit hamfisted but you gotta give 'em credit for taking on the subject of marijuanna use amongst teens. They talk about bongs, joints, roaches, and selling your Mum's stuff to buy drugs -- it's almost a "How To..."

    Tootie's Bong

    and

    The Facts Of Life Stoned

    __(One of them even features a young Helen Hunt)

    Since Jun 2007 • 909 posts Report Reply

  • 3410,

    So it looks like the bill will go forward with a provision that would outlaw using your PVR or VCR to record much of the schedule on TV One and TV2. Note that TVNZ specifically said in its submission that the measure was unrealistic and unnecessary. Go figure.

    Maybe this problem can be solved by an ammendment allowing police discretion over whether or not to prosecute.

    Auckland • Since Jan 2007 • 2618 posts Report Reply

  • Russell Brown,

    So capturing free content streamed off the TVNZ on demand site is now forbidden. go figure

    Plus, if your friends come around, you can't show them the programmes you've time-shifted off the telly.

    Auckland • Since Nov 2006 • 22850 posts Report Reply

  • merc,

    Plus, if your friends come around, you can't show them the programmes you've time-shifted off the telly.

    Now that would be one enchanted evening...

    Since Dec 2006 • 2471 posts Report Reply

  • InternationalObserver,

    Maybe this problem can be solved by an ammendment allowing police discretion over whether or not to prosecute.

    Didn't Greg O'Connor from the Police Association say that under the proposed legislation the Police would be forced to investigate each and every reported case of time-shifted recording?

    Since Jun 2007 • 909 posts Report Reply

  • Don Christie,

    Now I have not been accused of being a big critic of this Government, but surely this is one of the worst bits of legislation that has been passed in a long time. Something that hand over the right to make criminals of folks to the whim of corporates is just nuts. I also confidently predict that not a single NZ artist will be better off as a result of these changes.

    Judith Tizard, if it is she who is still responsible for this, deserves all the brickbats coming her way.

    Wellington • Since Nov 2006 • 1645 posts Report Reply

  • Don Christie,

    Actually, I take that last sentence back. I realise this is select committee report, apologies.

    Wellington • Since Nov 2006 • 1645 posts Report Reply

  • Michael Fitzgerald,

    Int Ob
    Subversive story lines are fantastic.
    Was the episode on vid or in a book.
    I was outraged as a kid when Getafix the Asterix Druid had his name changed for the movie.
    And can anyone get Cpt Pugwash with the orig character names, Master Bates & Roger the Cabin Boy?
    Wrong stories for kids but brilliant for big kids.

    Since May 2007 • 631 posts Report Reply

  • InternationalObserver,

    And can anyone get Cpt Pugwash with the orig character names, Master Bates & Roger the Cabin Boy?

    didn't Mikey Havoc debunk that one as urban myth a few years back??

    Since Jun 2007 • 909 posts Report Reply

  • 3410,

    Auckland • Since Jan 2007 • 2618 posts Report Reply

  • Robyn Gallagher,

    If we're going to talk about subversive children's television programmes, then the naughty Rainbow episode must be mentioned.

    It was apparently made for a Christmas tape and never broadcast. But now it has a home on the intertubes.

    Since Nov 2006 • 1946 posts Report Reply

  • Michael Fitzgerald,

    I'm still a beliver.
    There is Pirate Willy & they do conceed that it sounds like Master Bates. There are other hidden meanings, like the play on words with the FlyingDustman.
    To win a court cases doesn't mean it's true.

    Since May 2007 • 631 posts Report Reply

  • Michael Fitzgerald,

    Robyn Gold just Gold

    Since May 2007 • 631 posts Report Reply

  • Sam F,

    Awesome video. If only we knew where Ebaumsworld stole it from...

    Auckland • Since Nov 2006 • 1611 posts Report Reply

  • Rebecca Williams,

    i think it was utah ... no oral sex. imagine.

    Auckland • Since Mar 2007 • 120 posts Report Reply

  • rodgerd,

    Any term extensions in the Bill? I've been rather enjoying the amount of Looney Tunes cartoons that are now out of copyright in NZ...

    Wellington • Since Nov 2006 • 512 posts Report Reply

  • Ben Austin,

    Argh! I was really hoping they'd remove that contracting out provision...among other things.

    Well, I guess our secret mole in the Committee is on progress to build a piece of legislation that will continue to force consumers to revolt and break the law. Good work!

    London • Since Nov 2006 • 1027 posts Report Reply

  • Graeme Edgeler,

    I was really hoping they'd remove that contracting out provision

    It may not be too bad. They'll have the right to agree with you something else, but they'll have to be pretty clear or face the wrath of the consumer guarantees act.

    Wellington, New Zealand • Since Nov 2006 • 3215 posts Report Reply

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