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Hard News: Dirty Politics

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  • Alfie, in reply to Rich of Observationz,

    Key really pushes his distain for process, doesn't he. Such as announcing Collins' return to favour on the Paul Henry show with, "most of Cabinet don't even know so I'm going to tell them this morning."

    Has the country already forgotten the rigged inquiry which cleared Collins of something minor, conveniently ignoring her gunning for Adam Feely, providing confidential and private information to Slater and using taxpayer money to promote hubby's business? Actually, the terms of the inquiry avoided most of those transgressions, didn't it.

    The Key government... it may look a bit like democracy, but it's really just a cynical farce.

    Dunedin • Since May 2014 • 1440 posts Report Reply

  • Sacha,

    Collins will have leaked this to the journalist and party friend, so a slant in her favour is likely.

    Ak • Since May 2008 • 19745 posts Report Reply

  • John Farrell,

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    Interesting – these are the third party cookies blocked on Pete George's site:

    Dunedin • Since Nov 2006 • 499 posts Report Reply

  • Alfie, in reply to John Farrell,

    these are the third party cookies blocked on Pete George’s site

    I don't understand the context of that post John. Could you clarify please?

    Dunedin • Since May 2014 • 1440 posts Report Reply

  • John Farrell, in reply to Alfie,

    I’ve set Chrome to refuse third party cookies. Here is a definition of what they are:

    “A third-party cookie is one that is placed on a user’s hard disk by a Web site from a domain other than the one a user is visiting.

    As with standard cookies, third-party cookies are placed so that a site can remember something about you at a later time. Both are typically used to store surfing and personalization preferences and tracking information.

    Third-party cookies, however, are often set by advertising networks that a site may subscribe to in the hopes of driving up sales or page hits.”

    From Whatis.techtarget.com

    Dunedin • Since Nov 2006 • 499 posts Report Reply

  • Rich of Observationz,

    I'm not seeing those cookies. Page load logs (Tools/Developer tools) would be interesting to see which page element is dropping the cookie?

    Back in Wellington • Since Nov 2006 • 5550 posts Report Reply

  • izogi, in reply to Alfie,

    Has the country already forgotten the rigged inquiry which cleared Collins of something minor, conveniently ignoring her gunning for Adam Feely, providing confidential and private information to Slater and using taxpayer money to promote hubby’s business? Actually, the terms of the inquiry avoided most of those transgressions, didn’t it.

    Don't worry.

    I'm fully confident that under John Key as Prime Minister, she'll merely be back onto her final final Final FINAL *FINAL* warning status.

    Just ... one ... slip...... and she'll be trampled under the rug again for her transgressions. Wait for it....

    Wellington • Since Jan 2007 • 1142 posts Report Reply

  • Alfie, in reply to John Farrell,

    I’ve set Chrome to refuse third party cookies.

    I understand cookies John, but as my browser is set to automatically reject all third party cookies, I’m not seeing them either. But from your image it appears that you’re blocking cookies from the govt.nz domain rather than Pete George's site.

    Dunedin • Since May 2014 • 1440 posts Report Reply

  • Rich of Observationz,

    So what happens with third party cookies is that a website loads resources (such as an advert) from another domain and those resources set a cookie. For instance, PA drops a tracking cookie from their ad source: imrworldwide.com.

    It would be possible for a government entity to buy advertising on blogs and drop tracking cookies to see what other sites the blog readers go to. However:
    - they probably aren't that smart
    - they'd most likely use a different domain if they wanted to be sneaky
    - or just collect browser spoor and match that, which is invisible to the user

    Back in Wellington • Since Nov 2006 • 5550 posts Report Reply

  • Rich of Observationz,

    It's interesting how Key's ministers are eminently qualified for their roles:
    - interferes with a criminal investigation => Police Minister
    - fails to manage an outsourcing contract => Local Government
    - believes taxation is a form of theft => Inland Revenue

    I'm assuming Gerry Brownlee is in line to add Aviation Security to his roles. Guess if any keen backbencher fancies a job as Agriculture Minister, then they only have to be picked up smuggling half a dozen apples and a gerbil into the country.

    Back in Wellington • Since Nov 2006 • 5550 posts Report Reply

  • John Farrell, in reply to Rich of Observationz,

    One of the links on the site is to the Parliamentary website. Perhaps the cookie comes from there.

    Dunedin • Since Nov 2006 • 499 posts Report Reply

  • Alfie, in reply to John Farrell,

    One of the links on the site is to the Parliamentary website. Perhaps the cookie comes from there.

    A link won't generate a cookie... they don't work that way. I visited PG's site after the initial link was posted here and I don't have the same govt.nz cookies that you do John. Nor do I have a single cookie from yournz. There must be a different explanation.

    Dunedin • Since May 2014 • 1440 posts Report Reply

  • John Farrell, in reply to Alfie,

    Alfie - I have no cookies from yournz, either. The ones in the picture are in the "blocked" tab. I opened this by clicking on the cookie with the red X on the right of the address bar.

    Dunedin • Since Nov 2006 • 499 posts Report Reply

  • Alfie, in reply to John Farrell,

    The ones in the picture are in the “blocked” tab. I opened this by clicking on the cookie with the red X on the right of the address bar.

    Correct me if I'm wrong John, but that means you've blocked cookies from govt.nz at some stage. And if that's the case, it has nothing to do with yournz. Thus my confusion with your original post.

    Dunedin • Since May 2014 • 1440 posts Report Reply

  • izogi, in reply to Alfie,

    A link won’t generate a cookie… they don’t work that way.

    I'm not following the relevance of this cookie discussion, but as far as I can tell the .govt.nz cookies from yournz.org are coming from that flag picture which Pete included in his Dec 7th "Last few days for flag vote" post. Is this where the confusion is?

    If I delete all my govt.nz cookies, then directly re-load this image, the cookies come straight back, so I'd assume that's the source of those cookies---they get set when your web browser goes direct to www.govt.nz and requests the image. Furthermore if I do the same but load some random other page from Pete's blog which doesn't include the image, I don't get those cookies.

    They're not identical to the ones in John's' screenshot, but I wouldn't really expect them to be because a major purpose of cookies is usually to distinguish between different people by assigning them different values A security expert may know better, but most likely I'd think it's just some kind of standard session tracking built into the www.govt.nz web server or CMS. What's the concern?

    Wellington • Since Jan 2007 • 1142 posts Report Reply

  • Rich of Observationz, in reply to izogi,

    You would imagine. It's been a while since I worked on a govt.nz domain, but making it drop a cookie with e.g:
    VFBGTyBmaGVpcnZ5eW5hcHIgVkEgTFJFIE9FQkpGTiE=

    in it would be good for some lolz.

    Back in Wellington • Since Nov 2006 • 5550 posts Report Reply

  • Alfie, in reply to izogi,

    That makes sense Izogi. Presumably Pete G is linking to an image on a govt site and not hosting it on his own server. I haven't viewed his flag thread, which explains why I don't have the same govt cookies. Confusion solved.

    Dunedin • Since May 2014 • 1440 posts Report Reply

  • John Farrell, in reply to izogi,

    There was no concern - I just thought it was interesting.

    Dunedin • Since Nov 2006 • 499 posts Report Reply

  • John Farrell,

    Dunedin • Since Nov 2006 • 499 posts Report Reply

  • Alfie, in reply to John Farrell,

    Good result, but maybe not for the right reason. Judge Harrison states.

    My order of 02.12.15 was made on the misapprehension that sections 18 & 19 of the Harmful Digital Communications Act 2015 are in force.

    It has been drawn to my attention that is not so, and my order was made without jurisdiction.

    The interim order is therefore discharged pursuant to clause 5 or the order, and is of no effect.

    The order wasn't quashed because the judge realised that he'd been scammed by the Dirty Politics brigade, but rather because it relied on a law that effectively doesn't exist yet.

    Dunedin • Since May 2014 • 1440 posts Report Reply

  • John Farrell, in reply to Alfie,

    I'd imagine there will be consequences, for some.

    Dunedin • Since Nov 2006 • 499 posts Report Reply

  • Sacha,

    Nicky Hager notes the acceptance by credulous media outlets of govt lies that Judith Collins has somehow been exonerated.

    Ak • Since May 2008 • 19745 posts Report Reply

  • Steve Barnes, in reply to John Farrell,

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    I’d imagine there will be consequences, for some.

    Especially when you consider the name of the Deputy Registrar of the District Court…

    Tariq Aziz
    I suppose it could be a different guy….
    I suppose we should just accept it, aziz where iz I guess.

    Peria • Since Dec 2006 • 5521 posts Report Reply

  • Sacha,

    So Slater has been slagging Xero because Rortney Hide is a mate of Dave Hendo. Tangle of nasty nutjobs continues.

    Ak • Since May 2008 • 19745 posts Report Reply

  • Joe Wylie, in reply to Sacha,

    Tangle of nasty nutjobs continues.

    "Calls to both Slater were not immediately returned."
    Multiple peronalities?

    flat earth • Since Jan 2007 • 4593 posts Report Reply

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