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Hard News: Dropping the Bomber

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  • Sacha, in reply to DCBCauchi,

    What I think matters

    Is conveyed well enough at your own blog - and I quote your most recent post in full:

    The common-sense nihilist political programme is that everyone in the world should become their own independent sovereign republic. And, while we're at it, we should all fuck off into space and let this place go back to being a garden. Somewhere to visit, not to live.

    It's as simple as that. Let's all just fucking live forever. Why the hell not?

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    Ak • Since May 2008 • 19554 posts Report Reply

  • Paul Williams, in reply to Lilith __,

    I often agree, up to a point, with his views, but he seems to go out of his way to be hyperbolic and antagonistic. If he'd be more moderate and less hectoring he could be a force to be reckoned with.

    Agreed. I think his approach appeals only to those who agree with him, in which case, it's pretty indulgent IMHO.

    Sydney • Since Nov 2006 • 2273 posts Report Reply

  • Rich Lock, in reply to Lilith __,

    I've always had mixed feelings about Bradbury's approach. I often agree, up to a point, with his views, but he seems to go out of his way to be hyperbolic and antagonistic. If he'd be more moderate and less hectoring he could be a force to be reckoned with

    Although there's definitetely a niche for that sort of OTT...bombast. If you generally agree with the points he's making, it's amusing and gets the troops fired up and happy. A bit like watching a rottweiler savage it's neo-nazi owner. You know you shouldn't laugh, but....

    back in the mother countr… • Since Feb 2007 • 2728 posts Report Reply

  • Craig Ranapia, in reply to James W,

    However, the media’s still so in love with the Key government that National have no fear of reprisals. They won last election with a policy of no policy; I reckon they can get away with another one.

    Balls – Clark was pretty damn good at being “unavailable for comment” when there was no possible advantage for her getting pummeled for five minutes on Morning Report. That’s what you have a Cabinet and a small army of spin things for. Really, please say that it’s appalling and there’s better than even odds I’d agree with you. But don’t shit on a cracker and expect me to swallow the nonsense that it never happened before November 8 2008.

    They won last election with a policy of no policy;

    And that’s crap too – you’re entitled to your opinion that National’s platform was awful in all kinds of ways, but it’s just twanky twaddle to say they had “no policy”. (Though I guess on the bullshit buffet, it's a fine whine that matches well with the not-at-all secret "secret agenda".)

    North Shore, Auckland • Since Nov 2006 • 12370 posts Report Reply

  • Lilith __, in reply to Rich Lock,

    Although there’s definitetely a niche for that sort of OTT…bombast. If you generally agree with the points he’s making, it’s amusing and gets the troops fired up and happy.

    Good for preaching to the choir...but not persuasive to anyone else.

    Dunedin • Since Jul 2010 • 3886 posts Report Reply

  • Paul Williams, in reply to Craig Ranapia,

    Balls - Clark was pretty damn good at being "unavailable for comment" when there was no possible advantage for her getting pummeled for five minutes on Morning Report

    I don't think that's correct Craig, I can't recall Clark dodging interviews on any significant issue but it was a while ago (perhaps you mean speeding tickets or paintings rather than substantive matters).

    Sydney • Since Nov 2006 • 2273 posts Report Reply

  • Sacha, in reply to Craig Ranapia,

    being “unavailable for comment” when there was no possible advantage for her getting pummeled for five minutes on Morning Report.

    so Key's perfect 0% attendance record says what?

    Ak • Since May 2008 • 19554 posts Report Reply

  • Sacha,

    RNZ media release.

    Radio New Zealand received many complaints from listeners regarding Mr. Bradbury’s comments on The Panel during Afternoons with Jim Mora last Thursday.
    The decision to withdraw Mr. Bradbury’s invitation to take part in future editions of The Panel was made by the programme’s Executive Producer immediately after the programme. That decision was supported by the senior manager responsible for the programme and subsequently by the Chief Executive and Editor-in-Chief.

    Mr. Bradbury’s invitation to participate on The Panel was withdrawn because his personal comments about the Prime Minister were deemed to be in breach of Radio New Zealand’s editorial requirements for fairness and balance. One of his comments was regarded as being potentially defamatory.

    ...

    Mr Bradbury’s comments on The Panel on Afternoons last Thursday were inconsistent with information he had provided before going on air and Mr Bradbury later apologised to the programme’s Executive Producer.

    It was made clear to him that while his invitation to appear as an occasional guest on The Panel was being withdrawn, it was not a ‘lifelong ban’.

    Ak • Since May 2008 • 19554 posts Report Reply

  • Sue,

    somebody is not telling the complete truth
    http://tumeke.blogspot.com/2011/10/why-i-was-banned-from-rnz.html

    I would really love to not become disillusioned with radio nz

    Wellington • Since Nov 2006 • 527 posts Report Reply

  • Craig Ranapia, in reply to Paul Williams,

    (perhaps you mean speeding tickets or paintings rather than substantive matters).

    No I don’t, Paul as I think you’re perfectly well aware.

    so Key’s perfect 0% attendance record says what?

    That you might want to qualify that statement so it's true?

    North Shore, Auckland • Since Nov 2006 • 12370 posts Report Reply

  • NBH, in reply to Paul Williams,

    I don't think that's correct Craig, I can't recall Clark dodging interviews on any significant issue but it was a while ago (perhaps you mean speeding tickets or paintings rather than substantive matters).

    I agree Paul, and the idea that the previous government used to engage in behaviours like refusing to front for the media, extensive use of urgency etc. is a pretty pernicious one that needs to be stamped out. It's particularly concerning given that it frames doing these things as 'business as usual', and so future governments will feel more comfortable continuing such practices.

    Wellington • Since Oct 2008 • 97 posts Report Reply

  • Paul Williams, in reply to Craig Ranapia,

    No I don’t, Paul as I think you’re perfectly well aware.

    Craig, I'm not. I don't recall Clark avoiding media or being criticised for avoiding media. I don't think you're right.

    By contrast, I do think Key has a clear strategy of (a) not recalling (b) not having the detail (c) not been present for whatever the discussion might've been about (d) or not being available for questioning.

    He does simply not perform well under close scrutiny.

    is a pretty pernicious one that needs to be stamped out. It's particularly concerning given that it frames doing these things as 'business as usual', and so future governments will feel more comfortable continuing such practices.

    Totally agree.

    Sydney • Since Nov 2006 • 2273 posts Report Reply

  • Craig Ranapia, in reply to NBH,

    gree Paul, and the idea that the previous government used to engage in behaviours like refusing to front for the media, extensive use of urgency etc. is a pretty pernicious one that needs to be stamped out.

    Actually, NBH, if you and Paul want to call me a liar please go to. I'll happy accept the word of anyone connected with Morning Report during her tenure as PM that Clark never turned down an interview request on "substantive" matters, or referred it on to a relevant minister/spokesperson. But I doubt they will, because it just ain't true - nor do I think it's ipso facto some horrible assault on democracy. That's one wolf both the loony left and the rabid right cry far too often.

    North Shore, Auckland • Since Nov 2006 • 12370 posts Report Reply

  • Sacha, in reply to Craig Ranapia,

    What, so Key *has* appeared on Morning Report? when?

    Ak • Since May 2008 • 19554 posts Report Reply

  • Craig Ranapia, in reply to Paul Williams,

    Craig, I’m not. I don’t recall Clark avoiding media or being criticised for avoiding media. I don’t think you’re right.

    Well, there’s no point in continuing this since you’re convinced I’ve lied. Repeatedly. In extreme bad faith.

    What, so Key *has* appeared on Morning Report? when?

    And I'm out...

    North Shore, Auckland • Since Nov 2006 • 12370 posts Report Reply

  • Paul Williams,

    It's not necessary to call you a liar to disagree Craig.

    I simply think you're wrong. I'm certain Clark will have refused an interview with NatRad and or some other major news outlet at various points in time, I'm simply saying she didn't do it on a regular basis and was not known to be wary of scrutiny. In my opinion, Key avoids them in preference for other formats.

    Well, there’s no point in continuing this since you’re convinced I’ve lied. Repeatedly. In extreme bad faith.

    No Craig, again I disagree, it might be bad faith though to set this discussion up in these terms. It's only in Parliament where a Members word cannot be questioned.

    I'm simply saying I have a different recollection from you (and have been clear about that in this brief exchange).

    Sydney • Since Nov 2006 • 2273 posts Report Reply

  • Sacha, in reply to Craig Ranapia,

    I'm being serious - I'll take your word for it if he has appeared.

    Ak • Since May 2008 • 19554 posts Report Reply

  • 3410,

    Good for preaching to the choir...but not persuasive to anyone else.

    The more I think about it, I lean towards "Good Fucking Riddance".

    His horrible approach has probably sent far more "swingers" right than left.

    Auckland • Since Jan 2007 • 2618 posts Report Reply

  • 3410,

    What, so Key *has* appeared on Morning Report? when?

    Don't you get it, Sacha? Both Clark and Key have declined to appear on Morning Report on more-than-zero occasions.
    </sarc>

    Auckland • Since Jan 2007 • 2618 posts Report Reply

  • Ian Dalziel,

    Perverse pedant's soapbox...
    An aside: after reading Tumeke I note that Bradbury
    and others use adverse when they mean averse.

    Adverse means 'hostile, unfavorable, opposed,' and is usually applied to situations, conditions, or events—not to people: : the dry weather has had an adverse effect on the garden.
    Averse is related in origin and also has the sense of 'opposed,' but is usually employed to describe a person’s attitude: : I would not be averse to making the repairs myself.

    Whereas The Adverts were just bored teenagers...

    Christchurch • Since Dec 2006 • 7743 posts Report Reply

  • Lilith __, in reply to 3410,

    The more I think about it, I lean towards "Good Fucking Riddance".

    His horrible approach has probably sent far more "swingers" right than left.

    Actually, his blog post that Sue linked to is worth reading.

    He says:

    In the past I have enjoyed the fight with the right more than the actual point at times and have allowed myself to throw rhetoric around for the fun of it. This experience and the surprising show of support has made me appreciate the role that I have as a commentator in a media dominated by bland baby boomer pundits and hard right wing opinion masquerading as middle of the road NZ.

    In the future, I will endeavour to take that media role on with the responsibility it demands. I'm not suggesting I will put away my stomping boots, but I will be a lot more focused about what I'm stomping.

    Dunedin • Since Jul 2010 • 3886 posts Report Reply

  • DCBCauchi, in reply to Paul Williams,

    I don’t think that’s correct Craig, I can’t recall Clark dodging interviews on any significant issue but it was a while ago (perhaps you mean speeding tickets or paintings rather than substantive matters).

    How about Clark’s response to Hager’s GM book?

    (And everyone knows hardly anyone ever comments on blogs any more. Apparently it's not trendy any more.)

    Since Feb 2011 • 320 posts Report Reply

  • Lilith __,

    My impression of Clark’s time as PM is like Paul WIlliams’ – she seemed very ready to talk to journalists most of the time. In fact seemed to seek them out. I’ve heard that on some occasions if journos didn’t ring her she rang them.

    I don’t think anyone here is saying Clark was always amenable to being interviewed. But my impression of Key is that he never fronts*.

    If some media person can weigh in with actual data it would be welcome!

    *except to the BBC!

    Dunedin • Since Jul 2010 • 3886 posts Report Reply

  • Sacha, in reply to Lilith __,

    Actually, his blog post that Sue linked to is worth reading.

    +1

    Hard to disagree with Bradbury about how the ban happened, too.

    I just don't think there was any direct pressure from the Government at all, and I say that as someone who clearly can't stand this Government and the misery they have brought to the poor of this country.

    So what do I think happened? Something far more insidious than obvious interference, I think this was a case of self censorship by Radio NZ management. Their tepid desire to produce bland, non-offensive programming for mashed potato recipes has created a management style so risk adverse that they respond blindly to any perceived offence before any is actually registered.

    Ak • Since May 2008 • 19554 posts Report Reply

  • Sacha, in reply to Lilith __,

    If some media person can weigh in with actual data it would be welcome!

    Same. Last date when Key was interviewed live on RNZ Morning Report would do.

    Ak • Since May 2008 • 19554 posts Report Reply

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