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  • Emma Hart,

    Who was it that said the difference between a liberal and a conservative is having a daughter ?

    Somebody who was wrong.

    Agreed, but what a tremendous line.

    I guess it depends whose daughter it is.

    Christchurch • Since Nov 2006 • 4650 posts Report Reply

  • Glenn Pearce,

    I really almost wish that candidates still did the doorknocking thing

    Nikki Kaye's been round our way, no sign of Judith Tizard, or anyone else for that matter.

    Auckland • Since Feb 2007 • 499 posts Report Reply

  • Che Tibby,

    julie f said

    the kind of thing that a year ago Whaleoil would have done and Farrar would have linked to, but he wouldn't have done it directly himself. As in 2005 he seems to have been infected by the campaign again. I wonder what will happen with Kiwiblog next year, whether National wins or not.

    wondered exactly the same myself.

    i had noted that dpf has slipped into election mode. it's probably the proximity of mr slater to his person while they travel together.

    the back of an envelope • Since Nov 2006 • 2042 posts Report Reply

  • Sacha,

    Respect to David for fronting up here tho.

    Ak • Since May 2008 • 19686 posts Report Reply

  • giovanni tiso,

    I guess it depends whose daughter it is.

    It'd better not be mine. But, irrespective of daughters... what a tremendous, evil line.

    Wellington • Since Jun 2007 • 7473 posts Report Reply

  • Craig Ranapia,

    I really almost wish that candidates still did the doorknocking thing

    Well, I sure wish Phil Twyford would -- I've met him a couple of times, and he's a perfectly decent and personable chap. A damn sight more appealing than his faux-personal computer generated snail-spam.

    North Shore, Auckland • Since Nov 2006 • 12370 posts Report Reply

  • Mark Easterbrook,

    Herne Bay gentry and Westmere breeders aside...Auckland Central also includes a lot of young, flatting, first or second time voters, who haven't been adults under a National government and so seem more open to the idea that National can actually deliver "a brighter future'.

    They obviously need to be introduced to Nick Smith and Tony Ryall.

    Auckland • Since Nov 2006 • 262 posts Report Reply

  • Paul Campbell,

    I haven't seen a single candidate here at the door in Dunedin North - the closest I've come to one was when I was almost run over by the National candidate who cut me off in traffic the other day (looked just like the giant face he had plastered on his car)

    Dunedin • Since Nov 2006 • 2606 posts Report Reply

  • Craig Ranapia,

    I accept the police have a duty to proactively maintain security -- but having your details taken by a plainclothes policeman because you asked the candidate a question is just creepy.

    So is The Standard alleging National MPs try to run protesters down with their cars. Only four more sleeps to go, and then the troll bloggers might fuck off back under their bridges for a bit.

    North Shore, Auckland • Since Nov 2006 • 12370 posts Report Reply

  • Craig Ranapia,

    They obviously need to be introduced to Nick Smith and Tony Ryall.

    Perhaps they also need to be introduced to Phil Goff, and reminded what the presumptive next leader of the Labour Party did when he was Minister of Education. Since you went there...

    North Shore, Auckland • Since Nov 2006 • 12370 posts Report Reply

  • Peter Martin,

    I haven't seen a single candidate here at the door in Dunedin North

    Me neither in Dunedin South,Paul. I did nearly run over some Labour people hanging around the Oval where the motorway ends...

    And I wouldn't recognise Claire Curren to run over.

    Dunedin • Since Nov 2006 • 187 posts Report Reply

  • Craig Ranapia,

    Only four more sleeps to go, and then the troll bloggers might fuck off back under their bridges for a bit.

    Though having said that, I expect the bog-o-sphere to be alive with the sound of exploding blood vessels and unmentionable human waste products and bodily fluids hitting fans for weeks to come post-election, no matter what the results.

    North Shore, Auckland • Since Nov 2006 • 12370 posts Report Reply

  • Paul Campbell,

    no - I don't think he did it on purpose - he just wasn't paying attention (I'm waiting for a tirade blaming Labour for the new rules for roundabouts)

    Dunedin • Since Nov 2006 • 2606 posts Report Reply

  • Kyle Matthews,

    Could it simply be that Labour and National have rightly cottoned on to the fact that electorates just don't matter squat to them?

    I suspect they think they're quite important. Manning's article was interesting in how he linked an active and good electorate MP to bringing out a strong vote next time in both electorate and party vote.

    Taking an electorate off a party gives you a base, funds to build up a profile in your area, and pays you to do work which helps come next election.

    MMP, definitely not the death of electoral politics.

    Since Nov 2006 • 6243 posts Report Reply

  • Sacha,

    John Campbell nailed Key last night about the lack of "fresh" anything on his front bench. Interestingly, his response suggested that the rankings may not count for much after the election..

    Ak • Since May 2008 • 19686 posts Report Reply

  • Russell Brown,

    __I accept the police have a duty to proactively maintain security -- but having your details taken by a plainclothes policeman because you asked the candidate a question is just creepy.__

    So is The Standard alleging National MPs try to run protesters down with their cars.

    I'm struggling to even see a comparison between the two, to be honest.

    Auckland • Since Nov 2006 • 22754 posts Report Reply

  • Russell Brown,

    John Campbell nailed Key last night about the lack of "fresh" anything on his front bench. Interestingly, his response suggested that the rankings may not count for much after the election.

    I hear this too. Watch out for Broadcasting and Communications.

    Auckland • Since Nov 2006 • 22754 posts Report Reply

  • Evan Yates,

    Putting aside daughters, what about Winston Churchill's quote:

    “If you're not a liberal at twenty you have no heart, if you're not a conservative at forty you have no brain.”

    Is that more palatable?

    Hamiltron, Te Ika-a-Māui • Since Nov 2006 • 197 posts Report Reply

  • Russell Brown,

    Respect to David for fronting up here tho.

    I'd pop over to Kiwiblog more often, but being reminded that I am a filthy, lying socialist lickspittle gets old quite quickly :-)

    Auckland • Since Nov 2006 • 22754 posts Report Reply

  • giovanni tiso,

    __“If you're not a liberal at twenty you have no heart, if you're not a conservative at forty you have no brain.”__

    Is that more palatable?

    He was plagiarising GB Shaw and aside from that I'd say it's just as unapalatable and not nearly as insidiuosly clever.

    Wellington • Since Jun 2007 • 7473 posts Report Reply

  • LegBreak,

    What’s a lickspittle?



    BTW, I don’t think the venom around the blogosphere will die down until after the next election in May 09.

    Wellington • Since Nov 2006 • 1162 posts Report Reply

  • Craig Ranapia,

    I'm struggling to even see a comparison between the two, to be honest.

    Just that The Standard is a source any prudent person should treat with extreme caution.

    John Campbell nailed Key last night about the lack of "fresh" anything on his front bench.

    But while Campbell (tiried) to nail Clark on her own 'flip-flops', I do wish someone would remind Helen Clark that her own front-bench is strongly resembling an 80's retro party.

    North Shore, Auckland • Since Nov 2006 • 12370 posts Report Reply

  • Julie Fairey,

    My partner is running an electorate campaign for a very safe incumbent (Mr Goff, seeing as how you asked, well ok I'm sure you were going to ;-) ) and they have been door knocking for months.

    I understand this has been going on for Labour activists in most of Auckland, for electorate campaigns, but I suspect the ability to cover the whole electorate is highly limited for all candidates these days, due to the sheer number of doors and the sheer lack of activists willing to do the knocking.

    I'm not sure what the general thinking is about how to identify the areas to knock. Certainly in Mt Roskill the main push I've perceived from the Labour campaign has been in heartland areas - at first focused on enrolment (huge section of the Labour core voters in the electorate have shifted house since 2005) and more recently on getting out the vote. They're not door-knocking the strong National areas, although they are doing other things electorate-wide that would cover those spots.

    So what I'm getting at is that I'm not surprised many people haven't seen anyone door knocking, or think it isn't happening. It is. You're just not the target audience.

    And on Farrar fronting up here about his video post - it's all very well for him to come over here and mea culpa, but I don't see him doing it at his own blog, where no one will pat him on the head for it like he's getting here.

    Puketapapa Mt Roskill, AK… • Since Dec 2007 • 234 posts Report Reply

  • Sacha,

    Watch out for Broadcasting and Communications.

    Oooh - who, who?

    Ak • Since May 2008 • 19686 posts Report Reply

  • JohnAmiria,

    Who was it that said the difference between a liberal and a conservative is having a daughter ?

    Aha thaaaat explains a lot ...

    having your details taken by a plainclothes policeman because you asked the candidate a question is just creepy.

    Can someone clarify The Law on this? I thought we weren't obliged to give our name unless we were arrested? I would have declined politely and walked away. Would I have then been arrested?

    And I loved the bit when he (the Cop) explained he just wanted his name (the questioner's) so he could run it through the computer in his car and see if he'd ever been in trouble with the Police before. FTP!

    hither and yon • Since Aug 2008 • 215 posts Report Reply

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