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Hard News: Just marketing to the base

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  • Matthew Poole,

    Tony, I'd save my electrons. Grant's convinced that there's no possible way for studies to correct for multi-variant samples. Which means, I guess, that nothing vaguely interesting can be examined statistically.

    He's right that you can't prove causation using observation, but that doesn't mean that the studies can't show very, very high levels of correlation, sufficient to constitute near-certainty. Certainly enough to convince anyone who's not possessed of a statistician's "correlation doesn't prove causation" mindset.

    Auckland • Since Mar 2007 • 4097 posts Report Reply

  • Sacha,

    Matthew, I think it's more a matter of faith over evidence - so no amount of proof will ever be enough.

    Ak • Since May 2008 • 19745 posts Report Reply

  • Steve Barnes,

    You can order a copy of the aforementioned paper from here for €13.87 or you could go to a good library and get it for free.

    I can't share my view on their work as I am not going to spend a thousand dollars paing for it.

    So. Grunt cant convert Euros to NZ Dollars?

    The evidence is not fabricated, the correlation is real, but the conclusions are not necessarily warranted.

    Ore did he mean "are not necessarily wanted."?

    Peria • Since Dec 2006 • 5521 posts Report Reply

  • Matthew Poole,

    You can order a copy of the aforementioned paper from here for €13.87 or you could go to a good library and get it for free.

    I can't share my view on their work as I am not going to spend a thousand dollars paing for it.

    So. Grunt cant convert Euros to NZ Dollars?

    If he's telling the truth in his profile on here, he lives in Taipei. And according to the Universal Currency Converter EUR13.87 is TWD643.95. So he actually wasn't exaggerating all that much.

    Auckland • Since Mar 2007 • 4097 posts Report Reply

  • Grant Dexter,

    :D Thanks, Matty. I really should have been able to get closer after having just gone through Europe, but I enjoyed the response anyway :)

    Taipei, Taiwan • Since Mar 2007 • 256 posts Report Reply

  • Sacha,

    Like I say, faith over evidence.

    Ak • Since May 2008 • 19745 posts Report Reply

  • Grant Dexter,

    What are you referring to? Steve's ignorance?

    Taipei, Taiwan • Since Mar 2007 • 256 posts Report Reply

  • Steve Barnes,

    How old is the Earth? If I were to suggest a topic for Vision to teach it would be called, "In the Beginning". My answer is: Less than 10,000 years.

    posted by Grant Dexter

    Ignorance.

    Peria • Since Dec 2006 • 5521 posts Report Reply

  • Steve Barnes,

    Peria • Since Dec 2006 • 5521 posts Report Reply

  • Grant Dexter,

    Would you like to talk about the age of the Earth now? :)

    Taipei, Taiwan • Since Mar 2007 • 256 posts Report Reply

  • Steve Barnes,

    wetapunga (the God of ugly things).

    Fnahhh

    Peria • Since Dec 2006 • 5521 posts Report Reply

  • Sacha,

    Got to love it when the last word in a conversation is Fnahhh. :)

    Ak • Since May 2008 • 19745 posts Report Reply

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