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  • David Hood, in reply to Paul Campbell,

    my sense is that there may have several people independently* exploring the ruins of Slater's server as it fell over. But that is just speculation.

    *independent in the sense of a bunch of unrelated people going "get him" at the same time

    Dunedin • Since May 2007 • 1443 posts Report Reply

  • nzlemming, in reply to Sacha,

    Goodbye

    applause

    +100

    Waikanae • Since Nov 2006 • 2925 posts Report Reply

  • Steve Barnes,

    From today's whaledump...

    Simon Lusk, 2/23, 6:54pm

    rodney may get interesting today, if the party actually do what they say they will

    changes to delegates, first meeting scrubbed

    and extra two weeks until selection
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    Cameron Slater, 2/23, 6:55pm

    especially when i post pienaars little immigration problem
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    Simon Lusk, 2/23, 6:55pm

    the scott post yesterday was the one that will really fire them up
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    Cameron Slater, 2/23, 6:55pm

    the homo post on gaynz is beautiful
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    Simon Lusk, 2/23, 6:56pm

    there are a number of people who dont want scott

    they should be paying you to write for them
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    Cameron Slater, 2/23, 6:56pm

    lots of people should be paying me to write for them

    i hope Mark is up with the play on these posts
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    Simon Lusk, 2/23, 6:57pm

    yes am talking to him a lot

    he is telling me that it is having a massive effect
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    Cameron Slater, 2/23, 6:57pm

    hehe
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    Simon Lusk, 2/23, 6:58pm

    scott will be nervous now

    that list is rigged

    and he will be worried you will out him
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    Cameron Slater, 2/23, 6:59pm

    i'll find out what dad thinks of it
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    Simon Lusk, 2/23, 7:03pm

    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/crime/8343030/Jeweller-grapples-robber-as-he-holds-gun-to-his-head.html
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    Cameron Slater, 2/23, 7:03pm

    calling him out..fucking awesome

    adrenaline surge

    hopefully i will get the email about peinar and hooton today
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    Simon Lusk, 2/23, 7:13pm

    that would be help keep the pressure on


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    February 24, 2011
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    Simon Lusk, 2/24, 4:08am

    pinko loved that description of patricia morrison
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    Cameron Slater, 2/24, 4:10am

    he rang me especially and is going to nominate me for an award of literary brilliance
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    Simon Lusk, 2/24, 4:10am

    yes it would be funny if it won that award

    there would be a few people around that would lean on the judges just to wind up patricia
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    Cameron Slater, 2/24, 4:11am

    was she worse thatn boag
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    Simon Lusk, 2/24, 4:11am

    different from boag
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    Cameron Slater, 2/24, 4:11am

    my old man rang...feeling out what info i've got
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    Simon Lusk, 2/24, 4:11am

    interesting
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    Cameron Slater, 2/24, 4:12am

    i stabbed scott, alistaor and towers
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    Simon Lusk, 2/24, 4:12am

    did that make him nervous?
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    Cameron Slater, 2/24, 4:12am

    he snapped at me "Don't you want Scott to win?"

    I replied.."Dad, I'm interested in a fair fight not some bullshit micro managed manipulation fo what is supposed to be a democratic process...i thought you were better than that"
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    Simon Lusk, 2/24, 4:13am

    it is a sin and shame that it wont be a fair fight if the 9th floor go nuclear
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    Cameron Slater, 2/24, 4:13am

    I added that i am so appalled at all teh cheating I think I'll out the lot of them
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    Simon Lusk, 2/24, 4:13am

    that is worth doing

    list of delegates

    why werent party luminaries given slots
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    Cameron Slater, 2/24, 4:14am

    dodgy, lying cheating cunts...firstly at the branch level, secondly at the region and thirdly with Goodfellow

    The plot thickens.

    Peria • Since Dec 2006 • 5521 posts Report Reply

  • Kirk Alexander,

    Not that it really matters in the scheme of things but yesterday's Lusk2 dump indicates that while Lusk considers the young nats "retards", this was the reason he didn't want many of them coming to the party. Slater then requested that there be "just dirty girls who flip it up", with their status of being or not being a young nat presumably immaterial. Classy as ever.

    Chch • Since May 2013 • 17 posts Report Reply

  • Russell Brown, in reply to David Hood,

    my sense is that there may have several people independently* exploring the ruins of Slater’s server as it fell over. But that is just speculation.

    *independent in the sense of a bunch of unrelated people going “get him” at the same time

    Fisher's source does seem to have different material. Plus it's possible either may have shared with someone other than Hager. Right when this started, one person tweeted me alluding to having "the whole site".

    Auckland • Since Nov 2006 • 22712 posts Report Reply

  • Grant McDougall,

    The UBS's display of Dirty Politics has a great gimmick: a pile of sick-bags and a sign saying "FREE SICK-BAG with Dirty Politics (in case a sense of nausea over-whelms you !)."

    Dunedin • Since Dec 2006 • 759 posts Report Reply

  • Grant McDougall,

    Why does Slater and his cabal so dislike Michelle Boag so much ? Any particular reason, or is it purely a clash if personalities ?

    Dunedin • Since Dec 2006 • 759 posts Report Reply

  • Dismal Soyanz, in reply to Grant McDougall,

    According to the book, Slater sees Boag as responsible for displacing his father from the National Party presidency.

    Wellington • Since Nov 2010 • 310 posts Report Reply

  • Kirk Alexander,

    And that she was a crap president as well...

    Chch • Since May 2013 • 17 posts Report Reply

  • nzlemming,

    Just finished reading the Bhatnagar/Slater text. Yes, there's personal stuff in there that should have been redacted and I started to do that, to put out a clean copy, but found myself in a quandry - where do you stop? Because politics is personal to Slater. The over-riding theme is one of revenge and putting one over on someone else. If you want to put him in a frenzy, tell him Hamish Price is a nice guy, or that Michelle Boag was a great party president - he takes these things very personally. So I gave up. Sorry.

    One thing I would note is that Bhatnagar initiated every exchange between them. Slater is very self-focused. And, when read in conjunction with the Lusk texts, Bhatnagar was a much better friend to Slater than the other way around.

    Waikanae • Since Nov 2006 • 2925 posts Report Reply

  • Dismal Soyanz, in reply to nzlemming,

    One thing I would note is that Bhatnagar initiated every exchange between them. Slater is very self-focused. And, when read in conjunction with the Lusk texts, Bhatnagar was a much better friend to Slater than the other way around.

    Yes, a recurring theme both before and after the book's release is how he turned on and abused his erstwhile friends.

    Wellington • Since Nov 2010 • 310 posts Report Reply

  • Craig Ranapia, in reply to Dismal Soyanz,

    According to the book, Slater sees Boag as responsible for displacing his father from the National Party presidency.

    Sorry for dropping by so soon, but John Slater lost the National Party presidency because it was contested and the other candidate won more votes. It’s how these things work, not least when Slater beat Geoff Thompson in '98, and I should know because I was a voting delegate to the party conference on both occasions.

    North Shore, Auckland • Since Nov 2006 • 12370 posts Report Reply

  • Dismal Soyanz, in reply to Craig Ranapia,

    I have no doubt it was done by a vote. I’m less sure that Cameron Slater saw that as a reason to accept the outcome.

    Wellington • Since Nov 2010 • 310 posts Report Reply

  • nzlemming, in reply to Craig Ranapia,

    Sorry for dropping by so soon, but John Slater lost the National Party presidency because it was contested and the other candidate won more votes. It’s how these things work, not least when Slater beat Geoff Thompson in ’98, and I should know because I was a voting delegate to the party conference on both occasions.

    As Dismal says, I have no doubt it was done by the book. But due process seems to matter little in Slater's fevered utu-driven imagination.

    Waikanae • Since Nov 2006 • 2925 posts Report Reply

  • Ian Dalziel,

    row, row, row your boat…
    Some ‘parsing’ thoughts on National’s TV ad:
    - it says much about their unstated agenda and methods…

    I can see their thinking:
    Rowing is the ‘sport du jour’, and the ‘Eights; is the elite ’Blue Ribbon’ event,
    too right, they’ll have some of that!
    Wahoo! a clean 'sweep'!
    Oarsome!

    But s this the ship of state represented,
    or merely a ‘shell’ company for ‘scull-duggery’ ?

    It’s all very ‘OxBridge’ – the NZ Census has population at approx 70% Caucasian, Maori 14%, Asian 9% and Pacific Islands 7%
    I’m not seeing that in National’s ‘eight’, which comprises predominantly young white folk maybe one person of a different ethnicity…

    What’s more none of them are looking forward, they are all blindly heading into the future towards something beyond their reach, attention fixed backwards to the lightweight in the stern calling the shots…

    All their ‘rigging’ is in place, but their pitch is off, and their ‘pull thru’ abysmal, too many more ‘air strokes’ and they’ll lose momentum, added to their taking on water as the ‘backsplash’ shows they can’t even ‘bury the blade’ well! …and they do like ‘meddling’….

    They picked their metaphor well…

    …and funny how on deck it feels more like a Slave Galley…
    (filled by the ‘press-gang’
    - hmmm the press Galley?)

    a slam dunk… ?

    Christchurch • Since Dec 2006 • 7848 posts Report Reply

  • Nora Leggs, in reply to Ian Dalziel,

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    more realistic?

    Auckland • Since Dec 2011 • 2692 posts Report Reply

  • Steve Barnes, in reply to Ian Dalziel,

    Oarsome!

    Until, that is, they run into a whale...

    Peria • Since Dec 2006 • 5521 posts Report Reply

  • Ian Dalziel, in reply to Nora Leggs,

    more realistic?

    ...needs more rope!

    :- )

    Christchurch • Since Dec 2006 • 7848 posts Report Reply

  • Ian Dalziel, in reply to Steve Barnes,

    blowhard spitholes...

    Until, that is, they run into a whale…

    aye, aye, scupper
    the skipper is a sin king

    Christchurch • Since Dec 2006 • 7848 posts Report Reply

  • Nora Leggs, in reply to Ian Dalziel,

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    ...needs more rope!

    looks like it's been around a while

    Auckland • Since Dec 2011 • 2692 posts Report Reply

  • Ian Dalziel, in reply to Nora Leggs,

    ropey governance…

    …it’s been around a while

    much like the National Party!

    They do say that you:
    ’can lead a hawser to water
    but you can’t make it sink…’

    Christchurch • Since Dec 2006 • 7848 posts Report Reply

  • Steve Barnes,


    We’re on a Boat… apparently.

    Peria • Since Dec 2006 • 5521 posts Report Reply

  • Ian Dalziel, in reply to Steve Barnes,

    Honest National Party ad

    Good sourcing!
    I was gonna go with The Magic Christian's 'Engine room scene but it is definitely NSFW (or possibly even this century) and may have propelled the debate off at a tangent ...

    Love that 'not a country' aside
    though with NAFTA still floating around somewhere
    it probably needs a 'yet' ...

    Christchurch • Since Dec 2006 • 7848 posts Report Reply

  • Steve Barnes,

    I cant see Eminem being too happy about his song being used for National...
    Play this to the end, the lyric works quite well I think..

    Peria • Since Dec 2006 • 5521 posts Report Reply

  • Steve Barnes,

    Oh the Irony..,.
    The song that National ripped for their ad is called, wait for it…
    Lose Yourself
    Yeah Mr Key, you can Lose, yourself…

    They should have kept the lyrics I reckon...

    Peria • Since Dec 2006 • 5521 posts Report Reply

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