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  • Craig Ranapia,

    And Julia Gillard was fantastic, telling stoneage rudeboy to fsck off back to the kitchen.

    He certainly should piss off to the kitchen and cook me some eggs, because the Aussie media-political complex can trash women without any help from some Pommy shirt-lifter.

    Still I thought the crack about "We've all seen how Gordon Ramsay treats his wife" was not only out of line, but a wee bit hypocritical and very dangerous coming from someone whose colleagues might not stand up to much scrutiny in that department.

    North Shore, Auckland • Since Nov 2006 • 12370 posts Report Reply

  • Sacha,

    C'mon, it was a fantastic putdown.

    Ak • Since May 2008 • 19705 posts Report Reply

  • Sacha,

    And to put Tracy Grimshaw's comment in context, the Campbell Live story has what seems to be her entire couple of minutes of response. Judge for yourself.

    Ak • Since May 2008 • 19705 posts Report Reply

  • Craig Ranapia,

    C'mon, it was a fantastic putdown.

    Excuse me? Gordon Ramsey's a jerk, but I don't see the point of getting down to his level. Gillard herself certainly sees nothing "fantastic" about her own partner being used as an offensive weapon by political opponents, so you might think she'd avoid cracks about Ramsey's marriage.

    I don't expect much from the irony-deficient media moralists of Australia and Britain, but Gillard's got a bit more class.

    North Shore, Auckland • Since Nov 2006 • 12370 posts Report Reply

  • Steve Parks,

    In other news, we have achieved word one million.

    Wellington • Since May 2007 • 1164 posts Report Reply

  • mark taslov,

    Nice use of 'dickish', don't hear that a lot. For future reference, I thought the method in which you got me to stop posting was pretty effective Russell; at least more hush hush and diplomatic. Respect.

    Te Ika-a-Māui • Since Mar 2008 • 2281 posts Report Reply

  • Sacha,

    Craig, Deputy Prime Minister Julia Gillard's comment was about staying in the kitchen. Dry.

    You're thinking of Tracy Grimshaw's statement I linked to above that mentioned Ramsay's wife and is extremely clear about the context around that.

    Ak • Since May 2008 • 19705 posts Report Reply

  • Blake Monkley,

    I recall it has the most popular state/federal reserve is that correct?

    It is much loved and its popularity means the place has always walked on the edge of being loved to death.

    Auckland • Since Jul 2008 • 215 posts Report Reply

  • complacenta,

    i did not quite expect to be the one this time who shouts 'oi, off topic' but here are words methinks to get us back on some kind of (t)rack
    That doesn't have the same ring to it at all. So perhaps it's best to stick with absolutes after all. Which brings us to Roman Catholicism, with its absolute authority and absolute Catechism. At this point, the religious politicians will customarily chime in: Roman Catholics have opposed abortion even for child victims of rape and have run institutions where the vilest abuses have been perpetrated on children. So how can catholic teaching remotely be taken seriously?

    I don't have a ready answer to that, save to say that all humanity is fallible, even Mr Tiller and his murderers. But that is no reason to bin absolutes of faith, simply because people fail to live by them. Otherwise we're binning the absolute that is God - and because humanity is capable both of killing babies that would have survived outside the womb and of killing a doctor who, in apparent good faith, performed such procedures, it seems that such aspirational absolutes may not be a bad thing. Indeed, such moral absolutes might be vital if we are not to descend into an OK Corral between the pro-life and pro-choice movements.

    which is why complacenta is of the opinion that 'tis the existence (!) of Roe vs. Wade itself that has made the thing, frames the thing, as non-negotiable, homogeneously disposed and therefore only capable of violently seizing upon those resisting the feel of genuinely self-righteous forceps (MY metaphorical action there)

    Since Jun 2009 • 26 posts Report Reply

  • complacenta,

    (and plz, plz never forget, o chomping-down chilluns, that the relativization of the absolute cannot really be elsewise than the absolutization of the relative - lv frm yr fiendishish frnd, Nanny McPhee)

    Since Jun 2009 • 26 posts Report Reply

  • Craig Ranapia,

    You're quite right -- bloody media report I was working off didn't have the attribution quite clear. (Also, is there any reason why TV3's media player doesn't work for me?)

    Anyway, I'm not sure there's any 'context' that would justify a crack like that. When you're "outraged" about personal attacks, you might want to stay on that moral high ground.

    North Shore, Auckland • Since Nov 2006 • 12370 posts Report Reply

  • Sacha,

    I won't try to represent the whole TV3 piece, and I hope you sort out their player at some stage, Craig.

    The key point that Grimshaw made very calmly was that Ramsay and his handlers had insisted on her not discussing his recent well publicised infidelity, which she went along with. He then saw fit to dump on her very personally and without the slightest provocation.

    So hypocrisy was a big part of the picture, as was Ramsay's general attitude about women which underlay both his infidelity and his treatment of Grimshaw. She said in that piece that she had considered saying nothing (and sticking to that "high ground" I guess) but realised that bullies need to be challenged or they keep behaving that way - so that's what she did, evenly and firmly. In an Australia that has hardly been a beacon of gender equity, that's likely to make quite an impact. Grimshaw only enhanced her mana, in my eyes.

    Ak • Since May 2008 • 19705 posts Report Reply

  • complacenta,

    "..only enhanced her mana"?
    will someone here plz unpack for me that very odd description?

    Since Jun 2009 • 26 posts Report Reply

  • Steve Barnes,

    will someone here plz unpack for me that very odd description?

    I doubt it. Why would they bother?

    Peria • Since Dec 2006 • 5521 posts Report Reply

  • Sacha,

    Quite. Not enough mana.

    Ak • Since May 2008 • 19705 posts Report Reply

  • Islander,

    Mr Ramsay has made a public -onscreen- apology to Ms Grimshaw.
    Sorry I havent learned to embed things yet, but it's on the Oz news-sites

    Big O, Mahitahi, Te Wahi … • Since Feb 2007 • 5643 posts Report Reply

  • Craig Ranapia,

    She said in that piece that she had considered saying nothing (and sticking to that "high ground" I guess) but realised that bullies need to be challenged or they keep behaving that way - so that's what she did, evenly and firmly. In an Australia that has hardly been a beacon of gender equity, that's likely to make quite an impact. Grimshaw only enhanced her mana, in my eyes.

    Oh, Jesus... those two really deserve each other.

    North Shore, Auckland • Since Nov 2006 • 12370 posts Report Reply

  • Blake Monkley,

    Auckland • Since Jul 2008 • 215 posts Report Reply

  • Sacha,

    Ramsay's mum told him to say sorry. Heh.

    Ak • Since May 2008 • 19705 posts Report Reply

  • complacenta,

    do any of you chaps have *any idea at all* of how smug, closed-ranking, self-congratulatory and reeking of this dreadful unspo
    ken 'mana' your blog does seem?

    have another wee snicker on me, why don't ya???

    Since Jun 2009 • 26 posts Report Reply

  • Sacha,

    Trolls who can't even use Wikipedia or Google are just pathetic, aren't they?

    Ak • Since May 2008 • 19705 posts Report Reply

  • Kerry Weston,

    have another wee snicker on me, why don't ya???

    With a name like yours complacenta, it's a bit rich to call us smug.

    Manawatu • Since Jan 2008 • 494 posts Report Reply

  • steven crawford,

    This was always going to be a long thread. Two H1N1 case's
    confirmed in Wellington. These are the first of the community transmitted.

    Atlantis • Since Nov 2006 • 4411 posts Report Reply

  • Robyn Gallagher,

    do any of you chaps have *any idea at all* of how smug, closed-ranking...

    Hey, that's uptown top ranking.

    Raglan • Since Nov 2006 • 1946 posts Report Reply

  • complacenta,

    i called myself so to reflect that very quality which, in my estimation, seems to haunt this commentariat's verymost actively squatting haunches..


    oh, so we derive our best understanding of the terrors of Mana fron wiki or from google, do we?


    crikey...

    Since Jun 2009 • 26 posts Report Reply

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