Hard News: The Civility Code
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merc,
Rockkkk awnnnnnaaaaa, that means alot to me, thanks. They are heroes of mine, especially Clairemont, though it's my twelf painting or so and is me, I also use a weird technique there just to keep the franchise alive. Originally a poet and always a poet I paint because I finally thought one day; I could do that, I luf it, so all the royalty stuff means nothing to me and as you said on another thread, as soon as you start whoring your muse for coin, you're screwed.
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merc,
I didn't know about Tony de Lautour until you said, he's pretty good.
http://www.nz-artists.co.nz/delautour/delautour.htm#bio
Christchurch produces some quite dark painters. -
yes well it looks like you can paint to me so you were right to assume you could. i like philip trusttum's stuff too.
the issue of intrinsic vs extrinsic reward is an interesting one, i need to argue it a bit better on the other thread, but i guess the literal whoring is one good example of how to probably learn to really dislike something that might otherwise be a great pleasure. -
merc,
Stick with it. I have lived my whole life around that question and I know what works for me. Plus you must realize where the others are coming from, Simon was an agent in the music business and RB is a journo (to squish it up, they are much more than that but we talking about daily bread), that's cool, they're model is right for them and they do/did it well. I have long ago given up explaining what I do and why I do it, I'm way more into just doing it.
I got my first poem published when I was 5, it was the kiss of death, my first book was published by the first publisher who saw it, it was the kiss of death, my second book was published sight unseen, it was the kiss of death, there were some great reviews, they were the kiss of death. But I survived (like the song, LOL), and I asked myself the question, why do you do this and would you stop if you could?
I know the answers to those questions and that's all that matters, and thanks Carlos..."always use your death as an advisor, because it will never lie to you. -
merc,
Go Philip Trusttum, he was unknown to me, now that's what I call doing it. It takes great courage to be fully who you are and leap off the edge of reason into the void of creation. You Mr Riddley have given me some dangerous ideas and I thank you.
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merc,
I should pay you for facilitaing me finding this,
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my pleasure m. trusttum's work and life seem pretty cool to me.
i love clairmont's stuff, but i used to know his daughter - she was an amazing, interesting, strong person, but i think really hurt by her dad's illness and death. i know it's silly to do so, but i always kind of resented him for inflicting his pain on others' lives. not that that's particularly unusual. he is nonetheless a great painter.
trusttum's work has always appealed to me, there are lots similar but he seems to manage to get just the right balance of light and dark humour and forboding. -
merc,
"It takes a while just to find self. You have a certain courage when you’re young. But the thing is that you haven’t learned, when you’re younger, to accept defeats - like the young boy who constantly loses games of chess and constantly asks ‘Want another game?’. As you get older you get more philosophical about defeats. When you get beaten you actually learn more - and sometimes you wish to be defeated. It’s just a question of getting into the psychological realm".
Philip Trusttum, 1980
I consider myself very fortunate to be able to work and create, with the support of my family, into my 40's now, and for those less sheltered from the fates, I salute them, as you do, with a loving eye, because...There but for the grace of God go I. -
yeah, amen to that. it certainly is a rare blessing to be able to live a life you like. although having said that it also takes a certain amount of courage and wit. actually it seems to take a lot of people a lot of courage to actually let themselves do what they really want to do. quite a powerful testament to the power of our self-repression education.
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merc,
Yes very true, although my very repressive education actually (later on) steeled my mettle, made me more determined, you know repression is a hell of a stimulant, and luck, I don't know why some of the most genius are tortured, it's said the Gods get jealous, or they bestow too much talent on you to have a good laugh, Prometheus, Orpheus...
But it's all good fodder for the cannon.
And your Warhol quote on the other thread is right on, always be careful what you wish for, because you might get it, and my brief brush with fame (small, stupid and hubris driven), nearly ended me. But hey, you've drawn me out much more than I ever wanted to be and like Kurt, I think I'm dumb and as I see the merc posts go up (near 666!) and my creative output (and work!) go down, I must say, syonara, for now.
I need to get me a website like Mr Trusttum (great name, like Frank Tuttle), paint another canvas, consider what to do with the last book, be there for wife and children (not children much longer) and give value to my real world bosses.
Adieu and well met my cyber-friend! -
cool m. in the end we have to focus on the RW aspects of life from time to time. (damn its eyes!) and if that involves creative output and tending to your dearest well, that's not too bad is it.
indeed the crisis of success is much more dangerous than the crisis of failure. i think you're right that the gods don't like anyone stealing any of their thunder.
see you soon - stay away from that fated number. -
umm, don't make it too long m
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merc,
By way of a snmall explanation, I saw this thread had been read over 6000 times, I thought good grief, we've become a sitcom! Also, I read on DPF two comment regarding Mr Anderton's (feck I mis-spelled his name on other thread...) parenting skills, it was Burt and some other vile idiot, after the usual Farrar dog-whistle (no Mr for you anymore Farrar), I was enraged beyond all reason, plus the ww2 nonsense, so as Che said, I Godwin'ed it, meh.
I won't go over post 666 though, I promise, though I am Merc. Oh and I owe you another thanks for the Intrinsic/ Extrinsic links, bewdy. -
prego. funny how paying someone to do something can put them off doing it.
actually i'm quite glad kiwibog is the sewer it is, long may it continue that way. the showing up the right in an advertsing campaign... $500k... getting them to do it themselves ... priceless.
what was that pixies song? if man is 5, then the devil is 6, if then devil is 6 then god is 7. maybe by pushing to 777 we can redeem ourselves? -
merc,
7 + 7 + 7 = 21
That is 2 + 1 = 3
3 is the Trinity, and that is unbalanced, we need the Quarternity,
3 + 1 = 4
4 is one (the Christ).
The axiom of Maria Prophetissa -
why is the trinity unbalanced?
and is not the 4th trump labelled the 3rd? -
Well, you know,everyone makes there own lifestyle choices but I'm really unsure about the 777 group. I'm just sayin'.
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ok, well as we've passed 22 and 777 of clearly off, how about 22 to the power of 4?
it goes back to the quarternity. -
merc,
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merc,
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"One wonders whether Jung's interest in the paranormal and his participation in seances had paid off in unexpected ways." - Carl Gustav Jung: Enemy of the Church
What else can one say but Crikey!
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merc,
Crikey indeed, and this well after Jung was dead. Jung also did some work with Wolfgang Pauli.
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merc,
And this guy Teillhard de Chardin whom I read as a child, due to my very liberal Catholic step-Grandmother. Suffice it to say Pere Pierre was an excommunicted Jesuit (and paleontologist), so Mr Carl Jung was a sitter for my catholic tastes.
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interesting material m.
been called in for reprogramming, need to consider reply.
back soon. -
merc,
There's enough there to get you into a whole mess of trouble with every kind of conservative group known to mankind, and it's not even flakey stuff.
Pauli and Jung posited Synchronicity as the fourth acausal principle, and with credentials like what Pauli has, you know it's going to be interesting.
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