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Hard News: The silence of the public square

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  • James Butler, in reply to Lucy Telfar Barnard,

    twock

    What's the sign for "twock"? Inquiring minds want to know.

    Auckland • Since Jan 2009 • 856 posts Report Reply

  • Russell Brown, in reply to James Butler,

    What’s the sign for “twock”? Inquiring minds want to know.

    I think you combine the signs for "twat" and "cock".

    Auckland • Since Nov 2006 • 22584 posts Report Reply

  • Richard Aston,

    Russell that "original notice for the meeting" has been pulled from the Community Waitakere site buts its still on the Bapist Church's site

    Auckland • Since Nov 2006 • 509 posts Report Reply

  • Lucy Telfar Barnard,

    It’s presumptuous of me to want to guess, but maybe something like this or this combined with this? Though I suspect the result might be somehow more offensive than “twock”.

    Wellington • Since Nov 2006 • 580 posts Report Reply

  • Mark Easterbrook,

    Does the mentioning of other candidates only count if you use their real name? Laila and Hone could just make references to the Smiling Assassin...

    Auckland • Since Nov 2006 • 262 posts Report Reply

  • Judi Lapsley Miller, in reply to Danyl Mclauchlan,

    There are zero votes to be won from that electorate and good media coverage to be won by getting thrown out for failing to observe an utterly pointless rule like not mentioning the PM's name.

    You mean John Voldemort Key?

    Wellington • Since Nov 2006 • 106 posts Report Reply

  • Russell Brown, in reply to Richard Aston,

    Russell that “original notice for the meeting” has been pulled from the Community Waitakere site buts its still on the Bapist Church’s site

    How odd! It was there at 10am.

    Auckland • Since Nov 2006 • 22584 posts Report Reply

  • Hilary Stace, in reply to Lucy Telfar Barnard,

    The audience could do those signs every time JK speaks. In fact could be used throughout the country at political meetings. Sort of like a secret handshake.

    Wgtn • Since Jun 2008 • 3178 posts Report Reply

  • Will de Cleene,

    Aro Valley really set the bar for how candidates meetings should go. e.g. water pistols for prolix, convivial but boisterous atmosphere. Great testing ground for the House too.

    Raumati • Since Jul 2011 • 107 posts Report Reply

  • Steven Price,

    Why don't we help Holly come up with some rules that should be in place in debates (sorry, meetings) like this? I say they should instantly eject any candidate who uses the word "desperate" or starts any response to a question with the phrase "let me just say this...".

    Wellington • Since Nov 2006 • 29 posts Report Reply

  • Sacha,

    In what capacity is Holly Ryan organising this meeting? Who is she?

    Ak • Since May 2008 • 19573 posts Report Reply

  • Sacha, in reply to Steven Price,

    or "but what I do know is..."

    Ak • Since May 2008 • 19573 posts Report Reply

  • Russell Brown, in reply to Sacha,

    In what capacity is Holly Ryan organising this meeting? Who is she?

    Businesswoman, longtime (lifelong?) resident, also running the Christmas Parade this year. I think she deserves the benefit of the doubt.

    And I can now see why the link to the meeting notice vanished. It had her mobile number on it and she she consequently got a call from Penny Bright, which no one should have to endure. See Bright’s lengthy, ridiculous comment on Kiwiblog.

    Auckland • Since Nov 2006 • 22584 posts Report Reply

  • bmk,

    "I'll get back to that ... "

    Translation: I'm going to ignore the question and talk about what I want to.

    Since Jun 2010 • 327 posts Report Reply

  • Pete George,

    It's not unusual for candidates to be excluded from electorate forums if my experience is typical. I've been not invited to candidate meetings presumably deliberately - other meetings manage to contact all candidates.

    And media can be very selective of what candidates they include in debates. I took Radio NZ to task last year for picking only half the candidates and they said more candidates did not fit their format.

    When I said picking candidates with higher profiles guaranteed some would keep a profile advantage, and that a public broadcaster should provide equal opportunity democracy they got quite shitty with me (a Wellington manager).

    Democracy is not even handed in many ways and there's not much most potential candidates can do about it.

    Dunedin • Since Dec 2011 • 139 posts Report Reply

  • Rich of Observationz, in reply to Russell Brown,

    See Bright’s lengthy, ridiculous comment on Kiwiblog.

    I'd rather not.
    1. Kiwiblog
    2. Penny Bright

    [EDIT: Penny's same TL;DR appears on http://thestandard.org.nz/john-key-prepares-for-helensville-debate/.

    And I would say that holding a candidates meeting and not inviting all candidates is pretty unreasonable, even if not illegal. ]

    Back in Wellington • Since Nov 2006 • 5550 posts Report Reply

  • Sacha, in reply to Russell Brown,

    ah thanks.

    No doubt the same as Penny's lengthy whine at Te Standard. should be blocked as a spammer.

    Ak • Since May 2008 • 19573 posts Report Reply

  • Ianmac,

    “I’ll get back to that … ”

    Translation: I’m going to ignore the question and talk about what I want to.
    Johmn Key's failsafe:
    "Lets go back a bit......"
    Yeah. Means we go so far back we avoid answering altogether.

    Bleneim • Since Aug 2008 • 135 posts Report Reply

  • Pete George,

    Should an eyebrow or two start to raise over what is happening with Internet Mana? Is this what Laila wants at the Helensville meeting?
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=YL4UBS_m23w

    She is presumably ok with what is happening at other meetings she is a major part of.

    Dunedin • Since Dec 2011 • 139 posts Report Reply

  • Keir Leslie,

    Yeah imagine young people actually expressing a political view! And getting excited about voting! Can't have that.

    Since Jul 2008 • 1452 posts Report Reply

  • Pete George, in reply to Keir Leslie,

    How many in that crowd do you think are expressing a political view of their own and who are getting excited about voting?

    Dunedin • Since Dec 2011 • 139 posts Report Reply

  • Rich Lock, in reply to Richard Aston,

    with it all taped down so tight something just has leak out.

    Just to clarify: you're still talking about your first bikini waxing, right?

    back in the mother countr… • Since Feb 2007 • 2728 posts Report Reply

  • Russell Brown, in reply to Pete George,

    Should an eyebrow or two start to raise over what is happening with Internet Mana? Is this what Laila wants at the Helensville meeting?

    Not a meeting. That's from the Party Party, in the midst of a whole lot of noisy drum 'n' bass and hip hop. People are going to get excited and noisy,

    My only problem with those parties is that they were originally pitched as general get-out-the-vote events, but wound up very much as Internet Party campaign things.

    Auckland • Since Nov 2006 • 22584 posts Report Reply

  • Craig Ranapia, in reply to Judi Lapsley Miller,

    You mean John Voldemort Key?

    Yeah, because someone who (whether you like it or not) is still Prime Minister after not one but two free, fair and credible general elections is exactly like a fictional mass murderer.

    North Shore, Auckland • Since Nov 2006 • 12370 posts Report Reply

  • Sacha, in reply to Craig Ranapia,

    spoiler :)

    Ak • Since May 2008 • 19573 posts Report Reply

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