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Hard News: TiVo and some tunes

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  • Gareth Ward,

    You will not be able to fast-forward through the ads in on-demand programmes, but there will be far fewer of them
    ...
    There are no buttons to jump either forward or back, just fast-forward and reverse.

    So I presume this means you can do the old Sky+ trick of starting watching a standard broadcast program late (by recording it at the start) and fast forward through ads? Just not in the downloaded movies?

    TiVo will be looking to cut deals with all local consumer ISPs so that its content will come to you zero-rated, and won't deplete your data cap.

    That's good news (and a first for NZ???).
    So they're definitely not going down the ISP route that they are in Australia? Whereby they've OEM'd broadband from an ISP and are providing all equipment for free upfront on a 2 year contract at $100/month or so. Unmetered broadband too.

    Auckland, NZ • Since Mar 2007 • 1727 posts Report Reply

  • Paul Litterick,

    The Virender Singh case is one where we needed to have the trial to learn what was going on. Now we only have his word and the usual rantings from the usual suspects. What we will not hear are the reasons why the Police charged Singh and the evidence they would have presented.

    Auckland • Since Nov 2006 • 1000 posts Report Reply

  • Danielle,

    You will not be able to fast-forward through the ads in on-demand programmes

    I shall, therefore, keep my boring old MySky. It is now my god-given right to fastforward through all ads, dammit!

    Charo World. Cuchi-cuchi!… • Since Nov 2006 • 3828 posts Report Reply

  • barnaclebarnes,

    The TiVo stuff should be great. Sign me up (but via that horrific form at mytivo.co.nz). I am wondering why WiFi wasn't built into the box and is an add-on? It seems strange in this day and age where home networking basically means wifi.

    Auckland • Since Nov 2006 • 90 posts Report Reply

  • giovanni tiso,

    I shall, therefore, keep my boring old MySky. It is now my god-given right to fastforward through all ads, dammit!

    Yes, but on-demand is the stuff you forgot to record or extra content not otherwise broadcast on the telly, right? I'm a bit unclear on this point.

    Wellington • Since Jun 2007 • 7473 posts Report Reply

  • Dave Patrick,

    Sean Plunkett was especially wearing yesterday morning, trying to get a lawyer (or law professor, or something - teach me not to listen properly) to say that the Virender Singh decision was an incentive to shop owners to "tool up" as he put it (continuously).

    The lawyer was very calm and very sensible (the only person who was) and kept saying no, there's no precedent set, not it doesn't give anyone the right to tool up, yes it's perfectly appropriate for the police to prosecute, and perfectly appropriate for the JPs to choose not to send it to trial.

    Rangiora, Te Wai Pounamu • Since Nov 2006 • 261 posts Report Reply

  • Danielle,

    Yes, but on-demand is the stuff you forgot to record or extra content not otherwise broadcast on the telly, right?

    I still think it's a dangerous precedent.

    Charo World. Cuchi-cuchi!… • Since Nov 2006 • 3828 posts Report Reply

  • Russell Brown,

    So I presume this means you can do the old Sky+ trick of starting watching a standard broadcast program late (by recording it at the start) and fast forward through ads? Just not in the downloaded movies?

    Yes. The DVR function is quite separate from the on-demand programming.

    Auckland • Since Nov 2006 • 22850 posts Report Reply

  • Gareth Ward,

    From Kerr:

    Action could be ramped up over time if the evolving science confirms the likelihood of dangerous warming and lower-cost ways of reducing emissions emerge with advances in technology. Alternatively, it could be ramped down if neither occurs.

    So now we know where the Prime Minister is taking his lead from - that was his exact point to Investigate.

    Auckland, NZ • Since Mar 2007 • 1727 posts Report Reply

  • Deborah,

    several of my old friends have taken to scanning fading photographs filled with people who look like us, only much thinner.

    And with more hair?

    There are many things that I like about being a woman of a certain age, but my changing dimensions are not among them. Sigh.

    New Lynn • Since Nov 2006 • 1447 posts Report Reply

  • Gareth Ward,

    Yes

    Cool, it sounds neato.
    If, of course, the bloody aerial network in our building didn't filter out most of the Freeview UHF channels. =|

    Auckland, NZ • Since Mar 2007 • 1727 posts Report Reply

  • Russell Brown,

    I shall, therefore, keep my boring old MySky. It is now my god-given right to fastforward through all ads, dammit!

    Which you will be able to just like MySky -- it's only the separate, on-demand-via-broadband service where you won't, but you're talking about three ads per programme -- beginning, middle and end. It doesn't sound onerous.

    Auckland • Since Nov 2006 • 22850 posts Report Reply

  • Kyle Matthews,

    So I was planning to get sky early next year for the Olympics. TV 6 & 7 going on sky just added to that. I hadn't decided about getting Mysky.

    However this TIVO sounds good. What will I be missing out on if I go the mysky route? Just the on demand programmes?

    Since Nov 2006 • 6243 posts Report Reply

  • Graeme Edgeler,

    So I have to buy my third Freeview box in 18 months?

    Are they going to call this one the FreeVo?

    Wellington, New Zealand • Since Nov 2006 • 3215 posts Report Reply

  • Danielle,

    It doesn't sound onerous.

    That depends on your ad tolerance. Mine is veddy, veddy low.

    Charo World. Cuchi-cuchi!… • Since Nov 2006 • 3828 posts Report Reply

  • Geoff Lealand,

    An excellent Media 7 last night--especially the discussion on the future of advertising. But Tommy Honey (usually a fair and decent chap) deserves to be smeared in his name-sake and set upon by fire ants for his cheap shot about Hamilton (and Palmerston North).

    Sean Plunkett? I usually think 'Sean Plonker'.

    Screen & Media Studies, U… • Since Oct 2007 • 2562 posts Report Reply

  • Rich Lock,

    I do wish we didn't have to go through the by-now familiar cause-celebre set-piece in the media.

    I was under the impression that it was the Harold's 'your views' column wot won it.

    GOTCHA! The PEOPLE have SPOKEN! We asked YOU! if you thought he should be charged. And a STAGGERING! 94% of you said NO! AND WE FORCED THEM TO LISTEN!

    NEXT! WE ask YOU! for Your Views on Your Views!

    back in the mother countr… • Since Feb 2007 • 2728 posts Report Reply

  • Don Christie,

    Looking at the comments on the climate change debate...

    Exactly the justification that Tim Groser needs to resist a panicked rush into economic dire straits.

    Jesus, controls on carbon emissions were first signed up to by the Clinton administration in 1993 (rejected by Congress). Where the hell does the idea that anyone is doing any 'panicked' rushing on this issue 16 years later!

    If there is a time for panicked rushing it would most certainly be now.

    Wellington • Since Nov 2006 • 1645 posts Report Reply

  • Gary Hutchings,

    re: getting past Ads

    Russell, I think the key definition here is "fast forward",

    Most PVRs allow you to jump forward a certain fixed period. (mine is 30 sec, so hit it 8 times and I'm over a 4 min ad break)

    I worry that TIVO may drag us back to the world of VHS and having to visibly "fast forward" you way through ads.

    But I await the final details with interes.

    wellington • Since Nov 2006 • 108 posts Report Reply

  • Don Christie,

    By the way, I do wonder at the size and nature of this round table that Kerr sits at. As far as I can tell it represents very few businesses and as the effect of making NZ business look like a bunch of Luddite idiots.

    Not really the impression I want to convey to my overseas clients. Roger, for the love of God, can you change your organisation's name? I am sure PA readers can come up with some appropriate suggestions.

    Wellington • Since Nov 2006 • 1645 posts Report Reply

  • philipmatthews,

    Good points Geoff. There's still a geographic snobbery around culture in NZ that seems juvenile and defensive: you should have heard what many Aucklanders said when I decided to move to Chch.

    I have to admit, my heart sank a little when I heard that Media 7 was going to head down this Auckland-vs-Wellington route, but I thought it was handled well. The important thing about Simon Wilson's article was not in its numbers-game comparisons -- how many art galleries here, how many art galleries there -- which seems facile, but in its call for Aucklanders, esp the Council, to recognise that they have world-class culture going on right in front of them. But it's a shame that it must then turn into Wellington bashing, or Hamilton bashing, or Parmy bashing ...

    One thing, though: I'm not sure Simon Wilson can claim that Auckland is the capital of NZ literature. Has he done a headcount of published authors and where they live and work? From memory, he arrived at this by saying (in the story) that the publishers are almost all based in Auckland. But that's the industry, not -- to use Tommy Honey's word -- the incubator. Penguin Books is in Auckland, but Maurice Gee, Charlotte Randall and Laurence Fearnley, to name three of its writers, aren't. Anyway, surely we don't have to settle on a single capital for that or any other kind of culture.

    Christchurch • Since Nov 2007 • 656 posts Report Reply

  • Richard Wain,

    All sounds good apart from the broadband delivery angle/wifi being extra (have I got that right?)...

    I mean, who on earth still has a landline? I've got wireless radio broadband and a cellphone, haven't had a phone for years...

    Since Nov 2006 • 155 posts Report Reply

  • James,

    Roger Kerr also says:

    Of course, there is seldom complete agreement among economists just as there is rarely complete agreement in other scientific fields, but the degree of consensus on many issues provides a sound basis for much public policy.

    from an article linked to from the Business Roundtable homepage.

    Now read that again, only changing "economists" to "climate change experts"...

    New Zealand • Since Feb 2007 • 34 posts Report Reply

  • Tom Ackroyd,

    Richard Wain:

    I mean, who on earth still has a landline?

    You are joking, aren't you?

    Wellington • Since Nov 2006 • 159 posts Report Reply

  • Richard Wain,

    Why, do you work for Telecom?

    Joke's over methinks... ;-)

    Since Nov 2006 • 155 posts Report Reply

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