Island Life: Good on ya, Paula
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The fact that he's (I agree Danielle) an arsehole who should be run out of the country by a random selection of people that he's screwed over the years, doesn't mean he's not entitled to be an arsehole in this particular regard.
Does anyone else wonder how this man retains any credibility? His talismanic properties seem immune from his bumbling performance. His occassional parliamentary questions are poorly executed, he seems confused and often ends up on the wrong end of the Speaker. It's all so tragic... I remember the last days of Lange parliamentary career, it wasn't nearly as bad as Douglas's.
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You want to lay off Rodney's hero - he might do more than publicise your benefits.
Yesterday's man, who never quite marched in step with the times.
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You want to lay off Rodney's hero - he might do more than publicise your benefits.
'S cool. I've long been resigned to the fact that I don't stand a chance of ever getting a job in a privatised prison.
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(I wonder if I can draft a member's bill for that...?)
You might well need to assent of the Sovereign before it passes...
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(I wonder if I can draft a member's bill for that...?)
Any chance of adding Michael Fay to your Bill?
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Any chance of adding Michael Fay to your Bill?
No no no. No adding personal "favourites".
Someone compile a list of likely suspects and everyone gets three knives... er I mean votes.
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The fact that everybody is entitled to accomodation supplement, tax credits, plus the $60 in work payment if you work 20hrs (single) or 30 hrs (partnered)? And that DPBers are required to work 15 hours a week - that income
Not quite. Only those who are not on benefits get the In Work Payment. And those on the dpb are not required to work but some are encouraged to look for work. If course if they are training using the training incentive allowance - which all current trainees can get until their course finishes - that would be taken into account - and those people can get childcare and student loans..But if they are in a Housing NZ place I understand they are not even entitled to the accommdation supplement..
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You might well need to assent of the Sovereign before it passes...
So we get rid of her too. She can take her prerogatives back to England where they belong.
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Someone compile a list of likely suspects and everyone gets three knives... er I mean votes.
Sir Michael Fay
Sir William Birch
Sir Robert Muldoon (do the deceased count?) -
I think I'd have to vote in favour of the living over the deceased, as its unlikely that Muldoon can do us any more serious harm.
Roger Douglas I think we can justify simply on the basis of the number of televisions that will not have solid objects thrown at them, let alone any wider social benefit.
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Roger Douglas I think we can justify simply on the basis of the number of televisions that will not have solid objects thrown at them, let alone any wider social benefit.
So you'e saying that Douglas' knighthood is good for the economy then?
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So you'e saying that Douglas' knighthood is good for the economy then?
I think his departure from the scene will be good for the economy. Both in that he won't have his hands anywhere near it, and we can all have a big 'stimulus' party.
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I think his departure from the scene will be good for the economy. Both in that he won't have his hands anywhere near it, and we can all have a big 'stimulus' party.
But will that party be bigger than the ongoing cost of replacing all those TVs?
That's GDP, you know. How are we ever going to catch Australia if we cripple ourselves by not pointlessly smashing TVs?
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we can all have a big 'stimulus' party
Sorry man, no can do. I don't do that shit any more.
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Sorry man, no can do. I don't do that shit any more.
'Stimulus', 'party' or 'big'?
Enquiring minds and all...
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I'm trying to recall if the beneficiary-bashing was as prevalent or as vehement in the early 1990s.
David, you obviously weren't on the DPB then. There has always been beneficiary bashing, particularly of DPB recipients.Some of us remember Bert Walker, the ungenerous and sexist Minister of Social Welfare in the Muldoon government. Made denigration of single mothers into an sport.
Anybody who has been on a benefit knows that the whole system is set up to make you feel guilty and unworthy as a human being. There is a hierarchy of benefits with the DPB at the bottom. In the early 1990s I went on the widow's benefit. To apply for it you even went to a different floor, to separate you from those DPB and dole bludgers, because you were slightly worthy. But by the time of Christine Rankin's reign all beneficiaries were treated the same. You hardly set foot in the place without being whisked off to a side room and being interrogated for benefit fraud. The public loved it.
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There is a hierarchy of benefits with the DPB at the bottom.
What, worse than the in-valid one? How hard could it really have been to change that name over the last decade.
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the whole system is set up to make you feel guilty and unworthy as a human being
Quite. Seems the only folk who feel they deserve an ongoing sense of entitlement are long-in-the-tooth politicians.
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Sacha - I think the DPB might even rate lower than the In-Valid one if you take into account the judgmental moral undertone of our benefit system. It was OK to get a widow's benefit with little children, as I did, because you were pitiable. But mothers applying for the DPB have transgressed some moral code. People who are disabled or sick are in-valid humans but they are not immoral.
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Maybe because she started the Needs Assessment and Service Coordination system that brought it an eligibility-based ring fenced system of disability supports, based on a market of providers who competed for contracts, whereas before it had been needs,community and rights-based?
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She was the first female Prime Minister. Knighthoods are thrown about for much less.
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Good on those who didn't convert their gong to an outdated imperialist knighthood or damehood eg Sam Neill, Joy Cowley, Ranginui Walker.
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REFUSED NEW TITLE:
* Sir Ivor Lloyd Richardson, judge
* Dame Silvia Rose Cartwright, former Governor-General
Leonard Ramsey Castle, potter
Witi Ihimaera-Smiler, novelist
Sam Neill, actor
Vincent O'Sullivan, writer and poet
Ranginui Walker, academic, writer
Joy Cowley, writer
Patricia Grace, novelist
Sister Patricia Mary Hook, community worker
Penelope Ann Jamieson, former bishop of Dunedin
Sister Pauline Margaret O'Regan, educationist
Margaret Wilson, former Speaker of Parliament* Titles previously awarded
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I think pretty much every NZ Prime Minister gets at least a knighthood; there's no reason to say that Palmer or Muldoon knighted themselves, it's just what happens to ex-PMs.
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Yes, a sirtainty in this daminion.
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