Muse: Indecision '11: Outrageous!
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coupe of weeks ago it openly advised Epsom voters to cast their lot in with Banks (or miss out on an extra bunch of MPs).
I presume you're talking this editorial in the Herald on Sunday - and if so, I don't think you're characterised it fairly. Back in the other stall in the Herald stable, I doubt Banks or anyone else in ACT read this with any enthusiasm.
A horse, so the saying goes, can be led to water. But there is no way it can be made to drink it, especially if it believes that water to be tainted. Such seems to be the case with voters in the Epsom electorate, who appear ready to deliver their own scathing commentary on the limits of political manipulation.
In the end, if you want to argue that your average Herald/Herald on Sunday editorial bears all the marks of being written by a troop of primates finger-painting with their own poop, you're preaching to the choir. But editorials editorialize - that's what they do, whether you agree with them or not.
NZH’s monopoly makes a mockery of Craig’s claim of a free press.
No it doesn't, it supports my long-held and oft-expressed contention that the Herald's effective monopoly in New Zealand's largest newspaper market does not serve anyone well, least of all The Herald itself. While far from flawless (understatement of the year), I do think a diverse and intensely competitive broadsheet newspaper market in London may have something to do with The Guarniad and The Torygraph being better than Granny.
Until I hear Robyn Malcolm has been thrown into a gulag for doubleplusungoodthink, and all deviant prolefeed covering her thoughtcrime have been made unperson, I will stand by my contention that we do have a free press in this country. It may be bloody awful, but that's a whole other kettle of fly-blown fish.
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merc,
New high with all the best analysis, http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=10764718
Seems to cover every talking point, from not smug to better than Winston. -
Jackie Clark, in reply to
Piss off. You're waiting in a long line ;)
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Oh, and sorry for derailing my own thread, but I’m not sad to see the back of Jim Anderton after he decided to have a concern-troll tantrum because he's above the law:
"They have a few things like rape and pillage going on around the country, and this is simply ridiculous to tie up senior members of the police force with this kind of garbage."
Nice to know the Police are incapable of multi-tasking, Mr. Anderton. “This garbage”, BTW, is the Electoral Commission doing their job and referring Anderton to the Police for an alleged breech of the Electoral Act.
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Sacha, in reply to
Seems to cover every talking point
This bit is great for those who've read The Hollow Men's account of National's underhand 2005 dealings with the racing 'industry':
Racing Minister Craig Foss looked on. "For some reason, we didn't have this problem with Don Brash," he observed of the former National leader.
But really, yes, Trevett's long job interview continues.
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merc,
I found it chilling, and yes the undercurrents of the direct quotes were not lost on me.
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Steve Barnes, in reply to
For example this morning Mr Key was interviewed unusually on Morning Report. The ineptness or complicitness of the the interviewers allowed Mr Key to avoid answering any questions.
And in the afternoon we get Jim Mora singing the praises of Sky TV’s new channel SoSo…, a channel of “All New” repeats, mostly repeats from Prime.
I wonder if there was a deal…
Joyce “We will let you talk to the Prime Minister as long as you push our interests.”, -
Sacha, in reply to
There doesn't need to be a deal, sadly. That's what structural incentives work like.
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Can you explain, to us less than omnipotent beings, the difference between "a deal" and a "structural incentive"?. The latter just sounds like managementspeak.
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DCBCauchi, in reply to
It's an incentive built into the structure of something.
No explicit deal need be done if you set things up in such a way that the consequences of decisions determine what decisions are made.
'You want to put on a play? Sure, go for it. This theatre here has a cheap rate and free advertising. Those other theatres? People go round saying bad things about them.'
Which theatre do you choose?
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Sacha, in reply to
Systems cause things to happen so that individual people don't have to conspire.
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Steve Barnes, in reply to
Which theatre do you choose?
The one that offers the best deal.
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Steve Barnes, in reply to
Systems cause things to happen so that individual people don’t have to conspire.
Systems are created by people making deals.
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Sacha, in reply to
I wonder if there was a deal…
Joyce “We will let you talk to the Prime Minister as long as you push our interests.”,you're clearly talking here about a deal between individuals, rather than something systematic.
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merc,
The deal is either you take it easy or you take it hard either way you're going to have to take it.
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And in the afternoon we get Jim Mora singing the praises of Sky TV’s new channel SoSo…, a channel of “All New” repeats, mostly repeats from Prime.
Well that's not fair. They're running Game of Thrones, Hours, Killing, Mad Men, Rescue Me, Boardwalk Empire, Six Feet Under, Weeds, True Blood, Entourage at present. Some of those are NZ premiers, some others are season premiers.
Treme S1 E1 starts tomorrow night - highly recommended by me, even just for the music. Wire is coming - and most people won't have caught that at midnight when it first played in NZ.
They also have some good HBO films. Last week they had To Big To Fail about the 2008 financial crisis and the US govt response. I watched another one the week before. This friday they've got You Don't Know Jack with Al Pacino as Jack Kevorkian.
I don't know if it's worth the $10/month they're going to be charging us all soon. But I suspect in terms of quality TV vs trash, it's the best thing on the box at present.
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Steve Barnes, in reply to
Well that’s not fair. They’re running Game of Thrones, Hours, Killing, Mad Men, Rescue Me, Boardwalk Empire, Six Feet Under, Weeds, True Blood, Entourage at present. Some of those are NZ premiers, some others are season premiers.
Like I said, SoSo. Nothing new to see here. Far better stuff on Prime, Maori, tvnz7 even TV3 in my humble opinion.
Wire is coming – and most people won’t have caught that at midnight when it first played in NZ.
That's why we have PVRs, I recorded that years back.
But... that is all beside the point, why the hell is Radio New Zealand giving free advertising to SKY? -
Nothing new to see here.
Apart from all the stuff that's new to see here you mean?
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Kumara Republic, in reply to
That’s why we have PVRs, I recorded that years back.
But… that is all beside the point, why the hell is Radio New Zealand giving free advertising to SKY?Better still, go one-up, subscribe to a VPN service and open a Netflix/Hulu account. Sky won't see a cent of my money on principle.
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Steve Barnes, in reply to
Apart from all the stuff that’s new to see here you mean?
Well not much of it interests me but feel free to get suckered into an extra few bucks on your Sky bill. Personally I would prefer a decent public broadcaster.
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Lucy Stewart, in reply to
Personally I would prefer a decent public broadcaster.
That shouldn't be an either/or. Just because it's not programmes you like doesn't mean it's entirely worthless. It's not like the people running it are mugging TVNZ7 for cash and then running away, laughing about how they're going to spend it all on episodes of Game of Thrones.
Better still, go one-up, subscribe to a VPN service and open a Netflix/Hulu account. Sky won’t see a cent of my money on principle.
I'm really, really hoping that by the time I'm back in NZ things like Netflix and Amazon service that isn't crap have made their way there. Otherwise there are going to be an awful lot of work-arounds going on.
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Hi, folks. First, once again many thanks to the awesome PAS Massive for keeping the signal-to-noise ratio pleasingly high. Just warning that I’ll be (temporarily) closing off comments on this thread from lunchtime tomorrow (Friday) until I can be arsed on Sunday morning. -Ish.
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