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  • Paul Campbell,

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    Today's Tremain ... another cartoon in a similar vein

    Dunedin • Since Nov 2006 • 2604 posts Report Reply

  • Joe Wylie, in reply to James Caygill,

    For your records Joe, I'm not a Rogernome, I prefer to be identified with things I've actually done so if you want to attack me blame me for the fifth labour government, not the fourth...I'm Pakeha, my partner is Ngāi Tahu and Ngāti Porou.

    Good old whakapapa. Something you're happy to invoke when it suits, yet how utterly wicked of me to entertain, even for a moment, that your self-made spot on the gravy train might have anything to do with your being the son of a unreconstructed Rogernome.

    flat earth • Since Jan 2007 • 4590 posts Report Reply

  • James Caygill, in reply to Joe Wylie,

    It's really not splitting hairs when what I assume you were trying to do was pigeon hole me as a property manager (likely a commercial one at that); when I've never been anything of the sort. If you understood how Ngāi Tahu operated then you'd understand it's an enormous distinction.

    The Tribal Properties are held as cultural taonga and managed in consultation with nga papatipu rūnanga. They aren't managed for a commercial return, and they also happened to form a tiny part of the group I ran.

    Christchurch • Since Oct 2007 • 34 posts Report Reply

  • James Caygill, in reply to Joe Wylie,

    And I'm not running from my whakapapa, just noting that I'm not my father.

    I'm not one for personal attacks, and I expect better here at PAS.

    In your original post you were linking Tahu's lack of publishing with my employment at Te Rūnanga ( at least I think that's what you were trying to do). I've pointed out that you're wrong, and corrected your statements about me personally (it is after all my specialist subject).

    How about you leave me out of it now?

    Christchurch • Since Oct 2007 • 34 posts Report Reply

  • Joe Wylie, in reply to James Caygill,

    Tahu Potiki's columns gave the impression of a compliant buffoon, who'd occasionally leaven his plodding support for the moneyed end of town with a little antediluvian homespun philosophy. Here he is calling for the death of the elephant who accidentally killed her keeper. Fortunately more civilised heads prevailed, and she's currently able to spend her days in the company of her own kind.

    Potiki's tame columns made him an ideal token Maori presence in the Press's reactionary stable of opinion-smiths. Now that the big establishment money's jumped the First Four Ships for the Ngai Tahu whaka there's little point in even maintaining the pretence of a Maori voice.

    flat earth • Since Jan 2007 • 4590 posts Report Reply

  • Russell Brown, in reply to Joe Wylie,

    Good old whakapapa. Something you’re happy to invoke when it suits, yet how utterly wicked of me to entertain, even for a moment, that your self-made spot on the gravy train might have anything to do with your being the son of a unreconstructed Rogernome.

    Whoa Joe. I’m really not keen on personal attacks, especially after last week’s stows. James is due a right of reply.

    Auckland • Since Nov 2006 • 22724 posts Report Reply

  • Joe Wylie, in reply to Russell Brown,

    Whoa Joe. I’m really not keen on personal attacks, especially after last week’s stows. James is due a right of reply.

    All I can offer in my own defense is a certain fatigue, brought about by the deficit in local democracy, of taking things on trust. I'm sorry Russell, I should have realised this was not the place.

    flat earth • Since Jan 2007 • 4590 posts Report Reply

  • Bart Janssen,

    To be really crude about it I’d guess is there isn’t any money in having a Maori columnist.

    ALL our media is commercial. They make money by selling ads and they crudely assess the importance of any given market based on who has money. Since we’ve made damn sure Maori have no money there is no point in advertising to them and therefore no point in having a Maori columnist.

    Which is of course utterly appalling.

    To be fair I doubt it’s put in such crude terms in the industry.

    Auckland • Since Nov 2006 • 4449 posts Report Reply

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