Posts by Alex Coleman

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  • Hard News: London's Burning,

    I don't know if this has been linked to here or not, (apologies if it was here that I saw it), but those damn commies at StratFor have a piece on the 'something is happening here but I don't know what it is' thing:

    http://www.stratfor.com/weekly/20110808-global-economic-downturn-crisis-political-economy

    Beyond the economic troubles, politics does seem to be in trouble.

    Wellington • Since Nov 2006 • 247 posts Report

  • Hard News: How much speech does it take?, in reply to lloydois,

    lloydois, and there I was thinking that the post I linked to earlier, ( a post on an off shore site), would be the most sotto voice praise for the massacre I would read.

    At CR they aren't even bothering with the sotto.

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  • Hard News: How much speech does it take?, in reply to DCBCauchi,

    That would be a killer point, if was advocating denying them the right to speech.

    Especially if I was doing so on the basis of hypocrisy.

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  • Hard News: How much speech does it take?, in reply to DCBCauchi,

    And a child-murdering maniac quoting right-wing blogs doesn’t reflect or represent those blogs, in the same way that the Weathermen didn’t represent the larger SDS movement they explicitly came from.

    In the same way that AQ don't represent Muslims. Which is a point the counterjihad movement explicitly reject. And, when you tell them to keep their thoughtcrimes to themselves, one transmogrifies into a cultural marxist.

    I respect their freedom of speech, but it's not free in the sense of being without cost.

    And I don't think it is at all unfair to call them to account for the contradictions between how they teat Islam, and how some of them are asking for nuance at the moment.

    Though this guy isn't asking for nuance:

    http://islamversuseurope.blogspot.com/2011/07/why-left-shouldnt-gloat-about-anders.html

    Where does that fit in to things? Legitimate free speech? I'm ok with that, but I'm still disturbed by it.

    Wellington • Since Nov 2006 • 247 posts Report

  • Hard News: How much speech does it take?,

    Today, on KB, the debate was whether Glenn Beck was quoted out of context, or just plain correct. That has morphed into pointing out that Norway gives aid money to palestinians, which is the same thing as killing Jews, dontchaknow.

    As truly unpleasant as the Standard can be at times, I don't really see them as equivalent.

    Wellington • Since Nov 2006 • 247 posts Report

  • Hard News: How much speech does it take?, in reply to Russell Brown,

    ...the knowledge that it will be another opportunity for those people to air their inane and abhorrent views.

    Case in point, today's thread on Glen Beck's comments.

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  • Speaker: John and Phil meet Bob,

    <i>Not quick enough for my liking, but it should happen with a fairly solid cross-party majority.</i>

    So some Nats will cross the floor? Good. I hope they don't feel the wrath of their base.

    Wellington • Since Nov 2006 • 247 posts Report

  • Legal Beagle: Good news, everybody (for everybody),

    I think one of the interesting wrinkles will be what happens with the party vote in the Māori seats.

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  • Hard News: Rough times in the trade, in reply to giovanni tiso,

    Yes, sorry, I was derailing there a bit.

    Not at all; the thread was just evolving. [ducks]

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  • Hard News: Rough times in the trade,

    Not meaning to interrupt, but on the 'what journalism cometh' question:

    As one of the first newspaper journalists to combine a beat and a blog, Gillmor realized, as he put it, “my readers know more than I do.” That was always true. It was true in the 1950s. But when the media system ran one way, in a broadcasting pattern, there was nowhere for that knowledge to go. Now there is. And yet, twelve years later, we aren’t making high quality editorial goods from the “more” that readers know. #

    Consder: There were enough readers of the financial press who knew from direct experience about the mortgage mess to put that story together a year or two before the crash of 2008. Real estate agents. Home buyers. Loan officers. Mortgage bloggers. Drones on Wall Street. They knew something was rotten. Collectively, they knew way more than the financial press did. The story wasn’t hidden. It lay uncollected. That knowledge could have alerted the nation well before the crash of 2008. #

    It was a pro-am moment. But are we nowhere near making it happen. And this is why I come to you a frustrated man....

    Jay Rosen

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