Posts by DexterX
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Oh yeah four people rode horses to the rally - I wish I had taken my daugher it would have made her day.
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The rally, which I have just returned from, wasn't anti union.
There was no politicisation – it was pro the two Hobbit films being made here, pro jobs, against influence from Australia in the NZ Film industry and supportive of Peter Jackson as a film maker who makes films in NZ.
If you see a union (and the industry) as the body of workers and not the executive committee then the behaviour of NZAE – MEAA (NZ) Incorporated as supported by the CTU can be regarded as witless, anti-union and anti industry
The blacklisting that stirred all this should be referred to as the Cave Troll Ultimatum – in reference also to the role of the CTU and NZEA.
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Jaymax said - "SPADA is frustrated at having to deal with two entities, and actors are put in opposition to each other by being forced to choose sides."
SPADA could deal with the two talent unions as either a multi party negotiation with both union bargaining teams at the table or the larger union first and the smaller union later.
It happens in multi party - collective bargaining.
What would likely be first dealt with would be blanket "terms of conditions" of the prospective employment contracts to be used.
Next the broad range of occupations classes to be covered.
There would also be the need for the employer to engage independent non-unionised contractors/labour – though this is no different than what is already happening.
Then a guideline for a tender (appointment process) for who worked on what project and this would prevent the arrangement running fowl of the price fixing legislation in the Commerce Act that is there to prevent the formation of a cartel – monopoly – duopoly price fixing situation.
With the residuals you would not want the unions involved in collecting and distributing these – this would make the union less likely to focus on the prime role of representing members.
The collection and distribution of residuals could be either through a fund/super manager or a cross industry board with representative from both sides.
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Oh Crap - timing is everything - shoud have caught that - perhaps not.
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The Super City result is touted as fundamental shit of the wider electorate to the left - the beginning of the new left renaissance and the end of the Nat honeymoon.
Unionists turn to Brown in hope -
http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=10682008Had the Hobbit blacklisting been hitting the fan in the run up to the Super City election I consider it would have had an effect on voting. Personally I would not have voted for Brown and also not made the effort to go out and encourage others to vote and support him as I did.
I don’t think that is dumb, I wanted something different something more constructive - this debacle indicates to me nothing has changed.
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I agree there are - strong competent unions operating with transparency to achieve improved conditions that benefit both employees and employers.
But this is not one of thse siituations which is the essence the crux of the problem.
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So CTU "were bought in to try to bring reason to the mess once everything had gone pear-shaped” as people have said, really??
Why didn't CTU say lets get it sorted bring the governance up to date, then go to the membership and industry, see what they wanted and what was needed and then move to assist NZEA with negotiations from a sound position.
Why did CTU step into the fray in the manner they have and make it worse?
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Jackie - if by extraordinary extrapolation you mean that I wouldn't allow NZAE to work on my car because they are likely too stoned??
I will not be voting Labour if the Hobbit goes and if I had been aware of what was just going down re the blaklist I would not have supported Brown.
A NZ Trade Union operated without a National Council for 20 years and did not file accounts for that same period, the Registrar of Incorporated Societies let it slide. The ministers with portfolio responsibility let it slide and this was ministers in both the current National and previous Labour Government.
The geezer who acted as the National Secretary for this union appointed himself by way of an honorary self-appointment and got away with it. His cause was supported by CTU.
This is how it rolls.
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Yeah, yeah but that is how these things roll - political life in NZ is mostly immature and selfserving.
The NZAE Hobbit shambles was likely a part of the campaign of industrial action and unrest pursued by the CTU and the
Left ( Labour and the Unions).The strategy to build up to the next election – The govt needs to listen to the working people of NZ - Fairness at Work - has come unstuck.
NZAE haven't been fair - they have been witless.
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The struck off entity would have in my view no legal standing as a trade union and be unable to be an incorporated society.
The status would be that of an unregistered society and as such they could not act as a trade union and bargain collectively under the ERA.
The new entity could be funding itself from the funds/income stream collected by the old entity – which is dodgy to say the least.
NZAE have likely not informed the membership - if there is any other than the 15 bods on the new incorporation application - of the situation and NZEA have likely not sought a resolution on any of this via an all up meeting – the matter of the new incorporation and the fees.
The meetings may well have been abandoned in Auckland and Wellington to stop the constitutional flaws and other issues coming out when the shit was hitting the fan re the blacklisting – bad timing is a bitch I guess esepcially when coupled with incompetence
No one is likely to stop them - the Registrar has let NZEA pass a new set of rules and reincorporate without looking very deeply into the situation and the obvious flaws in the rules.
The Dept of Labour are likely to also let it all ride unless someone takes NZEA to task through the Authority or the Employment Court.
The Registrar is an enabler of the consequence free environment, to which I refer in earlier posts, and allows it to exist by not fulfilling the statutory function for whcih the office was created - but isn't that the real probeklm with govt.
The CTU would have been fully aware of the flaws in all of this, which is why Peter Cranney and Simon Mitchell are involved; they would likely be considered the preferred CTU advocates and Helen Kelly most likely would have referred NZAE to them to try and sort it out. Simon Mitchell would have been used as he is in Auckland and Peter Cranney in Wellington.
I can’t help think that the NZAE, who had 2 & 1/2 year to sort there shit out, have badly handled the situation and must have been out of their (insert expletive of choice here) minds.
This is perhaps why the “left” isn’t fit to resume government – they just aren’t competent or perhaps more honestly the left are even more incompetent than the present government.
If this shit had hit the fan a month before the Super City Election it would likely have tipped the result the other way.