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The software tools to rip DVDs exist and are widely available.
there are some copy protection systems that do not succumb to these ripping technologies.
but no one's asking them to.
I think they are. that's what all the smirking was about wasn't it. mpaa offering telesync as an option instead of a key to their copy protection?
Even our more modest concept of fair dealing allows for copying for purposes of criticism and review, which is the purpose of media studies.
and my question asking from the media owners perspective is why should I bear the burden of that.
I'm providing affordable copies with scene selection. what is reasonable to expect from a media creator who's livelihood is so seriously under attack?
it seems a rather either or situation for them at the moment where as its a forgone conclusion as it stands for music until something else changes. -
Then whats the problem with licensing differently to education and giving them tools to extract some of the content for digital use?
I'm guessing the problem is the do ability of it.
its skin of the teeth to keep it functioning at the level it is.
I'm not a dvd copier novice but I'm not a pro either.
some dvds have no copy protection of note, some have some and can be circumvented and some completely refuse to be extracted, so obviously it is possible to stop most of the people some of the time in dvd. music not so much.The mpaa as you say obviously see some obligation to education although I don't know why simply producing purchasable at a reasonable price dvds with scene selection is not fulfilling that obligation of access to material in a convenient way as much as supplying texts books for purchase is fulfilling information obligations.
I can see the mpaa's position so don't feel as inclined to smirk as some other commenters,
if it were me I wouldn't be agreeing to legal copying at all,
i'd be looking for ways of fulfilling the needs within the established system of distribution -
in a desperate attempt to follow the new leader I just googled copyright
New Zealand’s copyright clearance centre
new website of the Copyright Council of New Zealand
that's 2 posts closer to the goal of the bored, by my estimate 77 posts to go, but kyle will point out that 101 is actually the 100th page.
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I know we can do it.
oh it's we now is it? :)
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And you were wrong bot then and now.
Your opinion is noted and disregarded.dude's just trying to get the thread shut down now by being a parody of arse hole. I say it doesn't count cos no one could be that much of a self centered prick and actually be for real.
Nice try mark, you almost had us all fooled, -
but I think the game here is over
there's still some interesting thoughts here. As I've said up thread I've really appreciated Mr Stowell's take on things, keir's comments likewise.
the mildly disturbing thing is that half arsed half informed views said loud enough can have an impact, usually on someone else.
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But a piffling sum, if correct.
I heard a similar thing about jps experience getting $250 for their track in something like a glassons commercial.
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Another record company posts a good profit, mostly from publishing income and digital.
from the whole dissemination of media production angle that looks like a bad thing.
They take a hit on individual cd sales and make it up on things that are predominantly and historically accessible mostly to big corporations.
publishing deals are not often struck with the bedroom guitar hero down the road directly, they're done via connections with big corps, who take their cut of course.Selling copies of your music was accessible to everyone (getting it into stores was more difficult) but if its now the loss leader and you pick it up on publishing that means big corps get to corner even more the financial wellspring.
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Well stop then.
specifically bored with sacha. you've met the mystery person but I'm imagining some burly russian guy making with the digs and it really isn't conducive to intelligent discussion as much as you think I'm not trying to make it.
I was actually interested in Keir's responses, and mr stowell's battle was eloquent skillful, insightful and quie entertaining.
The MPA copying issue had some really interesting perspectives to be had if one could get past that whole smugly wise than thou thing.
In their position with examples of copy protect that do work and with budgets in the multi million of dollars for each of their products what really is fair to expect of them?
Should they dismantle their protection so that primary school teachers can have a crisp digital copy of a chunk of barney for their kids to dance to?
I can see the side of "media is culture" and its relevance, but I can also see the side of media is investment and everyone who embraces that media has a responsiblity to help pay for its production, pay their part in it.
Make light of their position with a bit of mirth just shows a lack of respect and understanding for their position, and that in turn insights a similar reaction back?
I'd stil be interested to know What would you do in their position, if you were spending multi millions to make these films and people wanted to copy them for no money to you?unless they're prepared to show good faith and courtesy.
I'm cool with that.
can we apply that good faith toward the multiple parties involved in the issue too, who don't happen to be participating in the thread.I personally don't care about major companies but I can see it from their side and I take offense at belittling any media owner (big or small) because their position is an insanely difficult one to be in at the moment. Everyone wants a piece of them. We here don't have to be part of the belittlement and its possible to critique them with out taking the piss.
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more like bored