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If brendan does manage to get his batchelor's of internets I'd be interested in
1) expansion on his comment that radio had increased yeh percent.
2) Why it specifically mentions on NZ on air's web page such lofty concepts as culture and identity yet the music wing of it specifically avoids dealing with such issues, apparently in direct contradiction to the mission statement.
3) Why he said he welcomed debate when he obviously avoids it? (We've been discussing this and the media 7 discussion for 4 full days now)
Why did he unregister himself from the NZ Radio Discussion Group?4) What is the name of the document he says he got his brief from for direction of NZ on Air and where can we get a copy of it?
5) Who is responsible for the policy change in 98-99 where radio programmers were bought on to the decision making panel?
6) If you were trying out an idea to see if it word with the programmers as gate keepers thing how long is long enough to assess its success.
7) In claiming credit for the success of the tenfold increase in radio play of kiwi how much of that increase would you attribute to other factors, such as
- channel Z, with its massively positive Kiwi vibe, on the street presences and in school gigs with local bands,
- local bands breaking through on their own, through hard slog ground up gigging (remembering this was the hey day of Shihad, Salmonella, Fur Patrol, Good Shirt etc),
- old school kiwi music supporters from the 80's now being in positions of power in media such as advertising, who slipped successfully kiwi iconic (but ignored at the time) music into their campaigns.
That'll do for starters.
good luck with the signing up process, god knows how the rest of us made it through the minefield Public Address set for us to keep us off their discussion pages.
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but I made a mistake ...
..........register under slightly different name......spent two hours today typing a post .....he hit save,............ login had dropped .....post disappeared............my fault, not his.......... I hope he tries again.so essentially you're saying the dog ate his homework.
I wouldn't blame him if he didn't want to engage with petty comentary like that,
well it was a petty comment when I wrote it but after that long winded explanation on how couldn't handle the simple process of signing up to a discussion group I think my comments were decidedly on the (tax payers) money.
how was it your fault again. isn't the sign up process full accessible to anyone at any time? -
Hey Russell why don't you invite brendan to take part in the debate on here, if he's so up for it as he said.
Apparently he's so out of the loop in his search for public opinion and debate on Music Funding that he doesn't know about the existence of Public Address so perhaps your first task as internet guru to the stars could be to show brendan how to work an internet browser :) -
Not many Kiwi artists sing about politics -- I wonder why not?
its a small country, open your mouth and it can come back to bite you.
I remember moana declining to comment on an radio nz discussion panel in 2005 for just such reasons. -
me independent opinion?
that would be mr independent opinion,
fast and lose fingers ruined my one liner.point still stands, why are you avoiding the question Russell?
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I agree with everything Russell says above,
you didn't agree with the demise of radio or the superiority of internet in the music market place, yet
and there are conflicting emotions I sense in your words,
come, lie down on the couch, tell us about your childhood..... -
95bFM's Jose Barbosa interviewed me recently for a retrospective on New Zealand's first dedicated music channel, Max TV.
never let the facts get in the way of a good story. what was wrong with auckland's first?
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Russell are you avoiding dubmuggas question?
why would you do that, me independent opinion? -
so Mr Robbery my point isn't that I think NZONAIR is a great success story but that I don't think they are the problem.
I guess well know in time.
But you can see the basis of my hypothesis that indiscriminant funding can have unforseen consequences.I'll use thisillustration for you.
imagine local music is a natural resource. I guess it is in a way. cultural identity has value. Export wise our difference is our strength.
so if NZ music (as in our voice our culture not just our people playing it) were say the native bush of fiordland. and the dept of conservation (NZ on Air) decided to bring in the forestry industry to manage the resource.
Forestry being the profit driven force they are strip out all the native bush and put in Pines. easier to manage and better returns allegedly.
That's essentially what getting commercial radio to direct funding decisions has done. they stripped out all the difficult kiwi stuff (including your own music which is totally listenable, even the prog rock stuff), and put resources into important trees, um I mean sounds.I'm a socialist and I'm more than happy for my tax dollar to go toward supporting the arts in this tiny country we live in that can't possibly sustain the arts sector without help.
I object to my dollars being pissed against a wall. Infact I'm going to sneak some money form my next tax payment and slip it into your pocket at the next gig, so long as you don't use it to by crack cocaine, I don't think I could handle a manic p foundation album.
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you're bagging NZ on Air for doing what they've been told to do
no I'm disputing what brendan says they've been told to do and what the actual documentation freely available on their own website says they're trying to do. I gave you links to back it up, did you not check out the substance of my claims?
I haven't seen any official documentation from brendan that backs up his claim that he is merely in the broadcasting business. This mythical Brief. Have either Russell or Simon seen this document? anything that instructs nz on air on policy?It clearly states on their mission statement that NZ on Air is in the Broadcasting of Culture and Identity business. That's a very important distinction. Its quite plainly written.
I think the concept of NZ on Air is a good one. I think the implementation of it has been insultingly bad.