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  • 08 Internet NZ: Where now?,

    sell you a voucher for an hour or two in SG. I suspect that's the way it is in Europe, or at least that's what I've been led to believe.

    yep, available, but paid for, ie not free

    new zealand • Since May 2007 • 1882 posts Report

  • 08 Internet NZ: Where now?,

    and much of Europe from third party knowledge.

    my european knowledge is first hand from 18 months ago.
    There are lots of companies with wireless hotspots in airports and such but they expect you to have an account.

    asia on the other hand was great.
    japan was 15 wireless signals to choose from and all with no passwords, same in thailand, singapore was pay, but that may just have been the area I was in.

    new zealand • Since May 2007 • 1882 posts Report

  • 08 Internet NZ: Where now?,

    its a part of the World Wide Whatever which has passed NZ by.

    the worlds not quite that good, you're talking asia for free, unfortunately large parts of europe are hooked on the pay model, although if you're lucky you can steal someones unprotected wireless connection. there's a site devoted to the locations of such un-passworded locations although I'm too lazy to go find it.

    the reason nz won't be free for a while is cos most plans are pay for gigs used, and if they are all you can eat it will dumb your speed down when you appear to be eating a lot, so it costs shops to provide for customers.

    new zealand • Since May 2007 • 1882 posts Report

  • 08 Internet NZ: Where now?,

    So a satellite provider has to send all its traffic down one bit of bandwidth - that's a pretty scarce resource.

    and yet those crazy japs aren't listening to your "no can do" speak.

    japan launches high speed internet satellite almost as if to mock you.

    new zealand • Since May 2007 • 1882 posts Report

  • Hard News: Another nail in the coffin of…,

    No, no problem getting a distro,

    so you really weren't bent over a barrel as far as options go then.

    new zealand • Since May 2007 • 1882 posts Report

  • Hard News: Another nail in the coffin of…,

    There were a couple of bands from the 80s who tried to get their masters back from Universal last year in the US. Never issued on CD, and never sold, but got a resounding no.

    yeah, comsat angels on polydor. having real problems getting their stuff available, but it did happen, (made available, not got control of their masters)
    swervedriver were just dumped, I think geffen were embarrassed about the situation. pretty much killed the band anyway.

    The value of the major label is it's asset base, not its chart success.

    sure to an extent but there's no point in having a swag of unsellable records in your catalogue. some recordings are plain worthless to everyone but the band and their three friends.

    Re your back catalogue. why were you having problems getting a deal with distribution for it? hell I've even been offered distro deals for my shit and none of them asked for ownership.

    new zealand • Since May 2007 • 1882 posts Report

  • Hard News: Another nail in the coffin of…,

    I'm not sure how they'd take your suggestion that they walk away from that.

    I'm not suggesting anything. I'm saying if you paid for your recordings then you own them. if they paid for them then they own them.
    There are multiple cases of labels relinquishing ownership of masters. When swervedriver got picked up by geffen recorded an album and then got culled a year later the band were free to take their masters even though geffen had paid for them. there are a few cases of this sort of thing happening. masters are only useful if the label sees worth in them, if not they're better off selling them off to deluded bands who think they've created a world changing masterpiece. Which reminds me of a graeme brazier story, which ..... nah, perhaps another time.

    and seriously, the only difference between shock records and some leg of sony is taste, other than that its a degree of size and power. They're still in the same game, making money from distributing music. none of them are going to take a loss for an artist, or else they won't be in business long. leave that to the small labels and artists.

    new zealand • Since May 2007 • 1882 posts Report

  • Hard News: Another nail in the coffin of…,

    if you think a major is gonna sign an international deal with an act that doesn't include those things then you are wiping away 100 years of recorded history.

    sorry, you lost me there.
    major label international record deal?

    firstly I don't make the distinction between the big boys and large indies. they're pretty much the same. in business to maximize profits. Half of the indies are fake indie anyway, owned somewhere down the line by the bigger boys.

    ownership of masters all depends on who paid for the recording. you don't sign that away in a deal if you paid for them, you sign for exclusive use to exploit them for a specified time period, usually 6 years. you never lose ownership of the recordings (unless you're incredibly stupid), just the right to exploit them for a time period.

    on the other hand if you used a label as a loan shark then they can very well claim and hold ownership for the recordings they paid for.
    You're welcome to rerecord new versions depending on stand down clauses etc.

    as far as nz is concerned many if not most recording are artist funded. thats a good position to be negotiating from, although I can see why a major would rather fork the cash and take a bigger cut for a win,

    new zealand • Since May 2007 • 1882 posts Report

  • Hard News: Another nail in the coffin of…,

    on the radiohead thing why was it that they signed up quickly to a label to do their cd release? too much work they couldn't handle themselves?

    new zealand • Since May 2007 • 1882 posts Report

  • Hard News: Another nail in the coffin of…,

    So Mr Castle is saying that for the privilege of having a publicist, you should pay over all your income and hand over all master copyrights?

    I didn't read that anywhere in his comments.
    it would depend on what deal and your contribution to the cake as to how much control you hand over though wouldn't it?
    if you're silly enough to use a label as a bank and their money does most of the work for you then be prepared to let them take the bigger slice.

    What he's saying is its actually a lot more work than just making a recording to making a viable record. for every band that thinks its a simple as making a myspace page and sit back and see the fans come in, there's a band no one will ever hear of drowning in the ether.

    There's a lot to be said for being given the time and space to just be the artists. ask any one of them that spends all their time updating web pages and burning cds and folding covers.

    there's a lot to be said for autonomy too, but one of those things isn't "plenty of time to do what you do best", art, as trent knows only too well. so what's it going to be. if he hires a publicist then its going to be hire a business manager and a manufacturing and distribution agent and soon you're the label you tried to avoid.

    new zealand • Since May 2007 • 1882 posts Report

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