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it was a joke but I guess there is some substance in the claim that downloading is killing music is the rough equivalent to the claim that Saddam has WMDS. It's hot air to further an end
you're comparing a businessman's comments on the industry he works in, for a group that is known for its earnest and honest approach to their art (however much you might loath that) to a corrupt govt who went out of their way to ignore facts and lie their way into a businessman's war of first resort? that's a bit of a stretch don't you think.
Mc Guinness has extensive experience in the industry and has a rep for being a straight up honest businessman (although I'd be happy to read links to reputable documents refuting this if you can provide them)you're poo pooing the opinions of a guy who is critical of the current state in music based on what? if its your opinion thats fine but you'll have to do better than just say the words, you'll have to let us know where your getting your info from, and back it up with links and authoritative sources. who are these other people that disagree with Paul's informed position which you have dismissed as smoke and mirrors. concerned skateboarder of ponsonby?, car enthusiast of gore? If you're going to dismis the man then it should be based on people working in the industry right now. everyone's got an opinion but that doesn't make everyone's opinion valid. it all depends what you're basing it on. you know what I base mine on.
You're saying the current state of music of the music industry is shiny and bright based on what?
I personally like and respect you and your achievements as you know but I've got to wonder where you're getting your glossy view of modern music models from. I've lost touch with your recent activities but are you still distributing music and if so how are your views reflected in your current projects?
if not where are you getting your hard facts from?
The reason I question you on this is cos as you know I do still participate in music and its distribution and I have seen and heard first hand the massive change in the production of music and the collapse of the business model that sustained it. I haven't seen any wide spread successful stable response to it. on the contrary I've seen it collapse from passably viable to not worth the effort. first hand based on many many artists of a variety of ages, although I do note that the new entrants are prepared to do it for the love for the first go, but even that is dying off much quicker with the massively diminished returns. they simply can't sustain the hobby.
You've got to understand why I question people who are contradicting what I see with my own eyes every day. I initially question Russell cos as a music participator I'm concerned that he gets set up as an authority on things that he has marginal experience in (referring to music making, distro, on many levels etc, not journalism and internet where I acknowledge his experience).
you on the other hand have had extensive experience in most facets of music distribution, although I'm not sure of your current experience in it as the whole game has changed in the last 3 years.
why does it matter? well people read this stuff and believe it and although its only a shitty blog from nz word spreads, joins other mis info and becomes fact.
and people mack comments like this from a recent discussion on music purchasing.
But seriously what kind of moron *buys* music?
and radiohead and their experiment.
Incidently in two recent interviews R/H have said the figure you are quoting is way way off.
what exactly did radiohead say the freeloader portion of their audience was? cos its been inferred that it wasn't 80% and closer to 65% and now its not 65% either, even though the original high figure was from an independent body with no interest in downplaying the success or other of radioheads project. they simply monitored hits didn't they?
Not that I want to disbelieve Saint Radiohead but to believe what they're saying we're going to have to have independently audited results to believe that people are not taking music for free where they can, (in complete contradiction to what were see around us).
And what they finally do tell us should be tempered against all the people who didn't go anywhere near radioheads site and whipped it off limewire or bit torrent.
Why is this a point worth arguing? cos seeing radioheads experiment as a success softens the reality of the music distribution situation."Radiohead made money, everything's ok we can stop thinking about it" doesn't do justice to the situation. Problem is not solved.
music it for free until someone makes us stop taking it, simple as that. That govts are taking steps to make people stop taking it (and movie files, however unsuccessful that may be) shouldn't come as a surprise. It makes getting into a hissy fit about drm look kinda stupid in comparison.
I'd personally rather have DRM than IPs inspecting my traffic, but that's just cos I've got something to hide :) -
I hear Paul McGuiness has evidence that Steve Jobs has been sourcing yellowcakeMP3s in Niger.
gee you really don't like mr McGuinness do you. was it just this speech or have you had a life long loathing for him?
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so everyone is happy again...it worked
I think this is more of a case of somene trying to tag their music onto the name of radiohead in order to expand their own career and sell records, and radiohead were obviously not keen to have someone else profit from their brand hence the cease and desist, but were quite generous in letting them market their music as radiohead remixes.
or maybe they think they'll get some crossover expoure from the hippity hop market. who knows.
I'm sure it all goes toward the "radiohead as benevolent saints" image.
maybe they can get the piracy figures for their next album down to 50/50. -
yesterday iTunes said it would not recognise the file...
I have come across files that will not load to itunes that say they are mp3 files. they will however load to quicktime and export as a .mov, which will then load to itunes and can be converted to mp3.
not sure what that will do to quality of sound.I think it's possible that there are some variations on mp3 encoding that produce files not supported by mac itunes. (don't quote me on that as I haven't put the effort into figuring out what exactly is going on but instead opt for the quickest work around)
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so everyone is happy again...it worked
not if you're a radiohead fan looking for interesting treatments in the same vein as the band. this is just rap over backing tracks. "every breath you take" any one?
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further clarification, its a bunch of rappers doing their stuff over loops culled from radiohead tracks from the most recent album.
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Including Radiohead letting someone give away their album all over again.
clarification, give away of a reworking collection of 8 songs which was done without consultation with the band featuring the original songs chopped up with embellishments.
main legal issues here are no songwriting royalties to the band, sampling clearance issues.
the band originally responded with a cease and desist order, then allowed the artist rainydayz to distribute his 'remixes' so long as they were no charge for, ie free. -
Could there be a more apt epitaph for this thread?
actually there have been some pretty big developments in the stemming of piracy, DRM etc in the last few weeks (british govt moving to require ISPs to address piracy, company adding DRM to pirated content, etc), but feel free to over look that and focus on the amusing side issues.
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it almost sounds like you are wishing for the collapse of pop music distribution yourself!
I'll leave it to the house music 'punks' to do that.
I personally don't have a problem with mass music, I just don't confuse the product with the at, not saying there isn't some art in mass music, not saying there is either. I guess the artistic content is for each individual to decide, if they're looking for that in their sounds.What I do like is people having an opinion, ie loving or hating it, either is fine. middle ground "I like everything", I don't like you.