Posts by chris
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Hard News: The positive option of Red Peak, in reply to SteveH,
Sorry I missed the editing window, but rest assured that I did manage to read most of the links presented on this page, it was the conclusion to the Guardian article, the sixth result on your Google search that confirmed my bias:
Of course, all this debate solely surrounds the general elections. Anderson said online voting is fine in “low-stakes elections” – he cites its use at the Institute of Engineering and Technology, and at his own university council – but said it’s “less fine where there are capable motivated opponents”.
I felt “low stakes” to be loosely applicable here.
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Hard News: The positive option of Red Peak, in reply to SteveH,
You haven’t given any counter to the numerous objections that have been raised in stuff I’ve linked to, so I hope you’re now starting to see e-voting is not the obviously good idea it may seem to be on the surface (Stephen’s flying car analogy is a good one). After all, remember Novopay? We couldn’t even get a simple payroll system to work.
While I imagine there are certain forces that might be willing to go to unscrupulous lengths to corrupt the vote to change the New Zealand flag - perhaps my limitation is not taking those threats seriously - I’d still rather we had taken the risk, adapted the current limited online voting platform for widespread use on this and future non constitutional referenda, though yet again that would have required a time machine ;)
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Hard News: The positive option of Red Peak, in reply to Stephen Judd,
Thank you. That was good read Stephen, a must read for anyone proposing a change to the voting procedure of General elections .Given successive New Zealand Governments’ history of ignoring the results of referenda over the past two decades, it’s possibly loosely applicable to this topic at hand. One may argue that the stakes are higher and the potential for threats greater in this instance because the referenda are binding – and correct me if I’m wrong – but can’t a flag be legally changed in New Zealand without a referendum?
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Hard News: The positive option of Red Peak, in reply to SteveH,
or perhaps you didn’t watch the whole thing?
I watched the youtube video you posted, I assume you read the Berkman Center Research document I linked to. I am not suggesting denying you the right to vote via ballot box, it’s that creating the option for people with disabilities or anyone wishing to vote online doesn’t affect your vote.
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Hard News: The positive option of Red Peak, in reply to SteveH,
1. anonymity – no one here seems too concerned.
2. voting machines – not my suggestion.
3. We can already apply for a passport, order a birth, death or marriage certificate online.
4. Many of us already conduct all our banking and financial transactions online.
5. For those who are overseas we already have a prototypical form of online voting in which the vote cast in not anonymous.
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Hard News: The positive option of Red Peak, in reply to Sacha,
you weren’t tempted to eat them, food prices are ridiculous as well.
True that, fortunately our nutritional needs are already covered by the newspapers.
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I’ll be burning my first referendum paper and envelope* because electricity prices in this country are ridiculous. Despite polling suggesting that Labour’s proposal could have put this thing to bed by christmas a large demographic seem to fallen hook line and sinker for Key’s spin that Labour’s proposal was nothing more than an effort to try get one over on him.
I’ll be burning my second referendum paper and envelope*, $26 million was ample to create an online voting platform that could have saved our country billions of dollars in the long run, I have absolutely no feeling about flags and none of Key’s expansive rhetoric has altered that, I had no desire to vote on a flaming flag I was coerced into enrolling, it being an offence not to, I can't afford the $100 fine for not doing so because electricity prices in this country are ridiculous. Thus far I have burnt two surplus enrollment forms, one ‘Are You Ready To Enrol & Vote’ pamphlet, two letters informing me of my need to enrol and two envelopes, because electricity prices in this country are ridiculous. I won’t be at all put out if our country votes to change our flag because then I'll be able to burn that too*.
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Hard News: On youthful indiscretions, in reply to Sacha,
To be compromised so early in life to one’s elite ‘peers’ is to ensure that you will maintain class discipline (above all else) throughout your life – and to have proved that that is exactly what you are committed to.
Thanks for posting that Sacha. That’s it. This is about peer pressure and the potential repercussions of not towing the party line. It’s about initiation practices at UK’s elite school and university system and basically the extent to which the members of the ruling class are leveraged by their own networks. There are a million David Camerons queued up to fill his shoes, the greater the masses fixation on the pig the stronger this elitist legacy becomes.
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Last updated 7 hours 44 mins after this Newstalk ZB article was published, Matthew Hooton is another political commentator who failed to accurately present Labour’s proposed referendum rejig:
The pretext for the subsequent disagreement was around the order of the referendum questions. National thought an alternative should be selected first, and then put up against the status quo. Labour thought the status quo should first go up against a question mark, followed by a process to select an alternative.
For accuracy, Labour thought the vote to retain the status quo should be carried out in conjunction with the process to select an alternative, followed by the selected alternative going up against the status quo or not as the case may be.
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Hard News: NZME and you, in reply to Russell Brown,
I’m going to (finally) sign us up as Press Council members
What are the benefits? (genuine question)