Posts by Russell Brown
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Contrast Te Papa and other NZ public institutions with the British Museum, which is quietly releasing it's collection onto the web: image database.
And you know what the really good part of that page is? It's these words:
If you wish to use an image from this site on another website, you have permission to do so subject to the following conditions:
- the site must be non-commercial
- full acknowledgement must be made of the Museum’s ownership of the object shown, and of the image, in the form © The Trustees of the British Museum.It's the equivalent of a Creative Commons "Attribution, Non-commercial" licence. Unless you intend to use the images in a commercial way, you don't even have to contact them. Inspired.
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Did anyone see the Nightline TV3 coverage of this most recent case last night? It was misleading to say the least, very disappointing. They did a voiceover that completely misrepresented the facts of the case, with pictures of people lightly smacking children on the hand or bottom. Definitely gave the impression that was the case here, when clearly it was not.
WTF is up with that? If they took that approach to any other court case there'd be hell to pay.
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The police have pushed back against happy-smacker brigade:
The prosecutor in the case, Sergeant Garry Wilson, said police evidence included photos of bruises on the boy's shoulder and buttocks.
"It irritates me to hear about people being criminalised about light smacking. These were heavy smacks that had a traumatic effect on the child. And the family members were sufficiently concerned to contact police.
"The family have said that it wasn't the first time," he added.
Clarifies things a little.
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We can't really know whether this case would have been reported, prosecuted or result in a conviction under the previous law. But we if we accept Dave's assertion that it would, that makes the Family Integrity blog pretty scary.
It's Christian sadists a-go-go over there.
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.. at the end of an incident, as I understand, Russell. At the end. Smack, smack,smack.
Hmmm. Here's the relevant part from the court story:
Becoming frustrated, the father grabbed his son's clothes at the shoulder and pulled him on to the bed.
The father then flipped the boy over his knee and smacked him three times on the bottom with an open palm, before roughly sitting him back up.
The eight-year-old had bruising to his shoulder, the court was told.
So he was angry enough to grab the boy hard enough to cause bruising, calmed down instantaneously to administer three light, sensible smacks, and then got angry in time to "roughly" sit the boy up again? Do tell.
I rather suspect the judge didn't parse the incident to quite that extent.
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I have no idea - neither does RB, neither does Sue Bradford, Gordon Copeland, Bob McCoskrie - and neither do you.
Well, you should stop describing the "light" smack that somehow happened in the middle of an incident that you say would have been an assault even under Section 59.
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I have changed my templates around a bit so yo will find the rinding crop cases here in the meantine
And you're still presenting as fact an account of the tying-up and assault of the second son (entirely demonising the son, naturally) that has been directly contradicted by an independent witness.
I know you have a lot invested in this woman, but surely it's time to admit that she's a bloody disaster, and that is not a safe home.
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Well, I’m going with Herbs 1981 debut EP “Whats Be Happen?” This has never been released on cd nor have any of it’s songs appeared on the various Herbs compilations.
Amen. It's a powerful record, and I I don't think Herbs were quite the same thereafter, without Tony Fonoti.
Who owns the rights? Do you know, Simon?
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Thats because to bruise a kid before the S59 bill is not any more or less against the law than it is now.
Dave, you know very well that's not true. Juries were known to declare assaults that left quite serious bruising "reasonable" under Section 59.
And anyway, what happened to the "loving smack"? Isn't what happened here -- parental loss of control, anger, etc, the opposite of the considered smack that good parenting was allegedly about? (And what, BTW, was your evidence for the "light" smack in the headline?)
That doesn't seem to have stopped The Section 59 Blog and Whale Oil from predictably going off the deep end. Check out the second comment at Whale Oil, contending that some people just bruise more easily than others. How creepy.
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so historically this sentence would seem way over the top when people who have histories of multiple violent offending/multiple cyfs intervention and finally kill or maim their child get about 2-4 years.
In jail. This guy gets nine months' supervision, which means we taxpayers cover his counselling costs. Personally, I'm happy to stump up.
And I'm really not sure where you get the idea that a typical sentence for child murder is 2-4 years. Coral Ellen Burrows' stepfather got life with a minimum non-parole of 15 years.
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