Posts by Graeme Edgeler

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  • Hard News: Onwards and upwards,

    If anyone wishes to lay a complaint, I would suggest Standard 6 - fairness (and guideline 6f in particular) as the best course, but you may wish to add standard 1 - good taste and decency, as well (though a complaint on that ground is far far less likely to succeed).

    I note a marked difference between these comments, and those on WhaleOil...

    Wellington, New Zealand • Since Nov 2006 • 3215 posts Report

  • Hard News: Onwards and upwards,

    was incensed enough to send them a sharp little note via the web feedback form. Is there something a bit more... important we could do?

    You could try using this form instead...

    The BSA make it even easier now.

    Wellington, New Zealand • Since Nov 2006 • 3215 posts Report

  • Speaker: Copyright Must Change,

    Once again: ...

    Don't you just hate that?

    I go through the same thing every time section 59 comes up for discussion.

    Wellington, New Zealand • Since Nov 2006 • 3215 posts Report

  • Hard News: Onwards and upwards,

    Any info on DPF's story about TVNZs 6 & 7 going to Sky? Is Freeview getting Prime?

    Wellington, New Zealand • Since Nov 2006 • 3215 posts Report

  • Up Front: Making a List, Not Bothering…,

    implied as opposed to actual ... this is a completely meaningless standard, so of course it produces bizarrely erratic results.

    Really? I'd have thought most stuff (well much of it anyway) didn't involve actual sexual activity, drug use or violence. You see people having sex, or doing drugs in a Hollywood movie and it looks real, but obviously isn't.

    I don't really want some movie producer to be able to say, no this shouldn't be R18 because they weren't actually having sex, it just looks like it.

    Wellington, New Zealand • Since Nov 2006 • 3215 posts Report

  • Up Front: Making a List, Not Bothering…,

    So, what does being on the blacklist mean?

    Does canteens.com.au get any Australian traffic? Or is it something less insidious?

    Wellington, New Zealand • Since Nov 2006 • 3215 posts Report

  • Cracker: Titular Titilation,

    He probably didn't need a knighthood anyway, what with his beer baronetcy and all

    Beer barony . A beer baronetcy would belong to a beer baronet, not a beer baron.

    Wellington, New Zealand • Since Nov 2006 • 3215 posts Report

  • Cracker: Titular Titilation,

    Islander - Dean suggested Tā and Kahurangi. Te Ururoa Flavell also mentioned Tā as the Māori equivalent of Sir on Back Benches last night.

    Wellington, New Zealand • Since Nov 2006 • 3215 posts Report

  • Cracker: Titular Titilation,

    Would Clark accept a damehood? Oh wait, it was Bolger who got rid of them wasn't it?

    It was not.

    Bolger got rid of New Zealand appointments to the Order of the British Empire, the Order of St Michael and St George, The Order of the Bath, Companion of Honour, and the distinction of Knight Bachelor, but replaced them with the New Zealand Order of Merit, the top two ranks of which included an indigenous knighthood.

    I doubt Helen would accept a titular honour. My memory is that Lange didn't, though he could've, and James Brendan Bolger most certainly won't lest his Irish cousins sort him out (as well they should).

    I believe Bolger declined. Which may be why he got an ONZ.

    Wellington, New Zealand • Since Nov 2006 • 3215 posts Report

  • Cracker: Titular Titilation,

    If I were a betting man, I'd say Shipley and Brash would be in with a grin – maybe not this year, maybe that's too transparent even for a National Government still early enough in its term not to give a fuck about public perception.

    Only an idiot would bet against you on the former - Labour gave Jenny Shipley a DCNZM just after they dropped the DNZM that would have seen a Dame Jennifer.

    Was this deliberately ironic? See ... here's why we need titular honours ... nobody even knows Labour thought Jenny Shipley good enough to get one :-)

    Less than 1 in 100 could rank the New Zealand honours, I'd wager that it was a similar amount who could rank the Order of the British Empire that proceeded it. Even fewer would have known that people who were knighted didn't get KBEs, but were usually Knight Bachelors, while those made Dames did get DBEs. The media all but always referred to someone made an OBE as receiving the Order of the British Empire, and an MBE as a Member of the British Empire. And that's ignoring all the other orders to which people could be inducted.

    I'd say the main problem with public knowledge over our honours is that when we New Zealandised them, we went for a standard 5 level order of chivaly, and kept the Order of New Zealand. If we'd gone with a single order, referred to everyone who got it as receiving the Order of New Zealand (even if they were at different level) and wrote those letters after their names every time they appeared on TV or in print, people would have a better understanding.

    Wellington, New Zealand • Since Nov 2006 • 3215 posts Report

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