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  • Southerly: Tower Insurance Have Some Bad…, in reply to Ross Mason,

    Steve Barnes: That Bernays link was fascinating.

    But wait, there's more...
    If you liked that then you will love this...

    Peria • Since Dec 2006 • 5521 posts Report

  • Hard News: Auckland City Nights,

    As far as the "Free" wifi goes...
    It would have cost almost nothing, in the greater scheme of things, for Telecom to have offered this as part of their RWC sponsorship, a drop in the bucket compared to the turnover of the market. I do, however, suspect that the lost revenue of thousands of tourists using the cell network to draw down data @$1+ per 10mb per day was a factor in their decision.
    I won't go into the RBI debacle, that bloody Steven Joyce again.

    Peria • Since Dec 2006 • 5521 posts Report

  • Hard News: Auckland City Nights, in reply to Russell Brown,

    (“Hey! Media7 guy!”), who then explained to his friend that I hosted “a kind of underground TV show”.

    Had to have a little snort at that but then realised that it actually made me a bit angry.
    TVNZ's major foray into digital TV seen as "underground". Thank you Steven Joyce, thank you very much for destroying Public TV for the sake of investors in the Private sector.

    Peria • Since Dec 2006 • 5521 posts Report

  • Southerly: Tower Insurance Have Some Bad…, in reply to Sacha,

    It’s hard to persuade people to vote for anyone who is calling them stupid.

    When you said that I assumed we were talking about the General Election, not the Christchurch recovery effort.

    I believe I have been clear enough.

    Clear as mud, well, silt anyway.
    ;-)

    Peria • Since Dec 2006 • 5521 posts Report

  • Southerly: Tower Insurance Have Some Bad…,

    telling voters they’re being misled by media = Causing them to feel "Duped" by said Media.
    going to result in votes for Labour = Put off National.

    your assertion that voters will... = might have shown up in the regular polling.

    Too much of a stretch?
    I don't think so and I was not trying to read between the lines. Perhaps you could explain what you really meant?.

    Peria • Since Dec 2006 • 5521 posts Report

  • Southerly: Tower Insurance Have Some Bad…, in reply to Sacha,

    You might have to point to where I’ve ever said that.

    If telling voters they’re being misled by media was going to result in votes for Labour, you’d think it might have shown up in the regular polling some time over the last 4 years.

    Peria • Since Dec 2006 • 5521 posts Report

  • Southerly: Tower Insurance Have Some Bad…,

    Some descent examples from views on this John Armstrong article

    Rose (New Zealand)
    08:30 AM Sunday, 28 Aug 2011
    I don't believe the polls. I don't believe the media. I don't believe leaks from right wing bloggers about the Labour party. I don't believe that John Key is full of charisma and beloved by all New Zealanders.

    Paul (New Zealand)
    08:32 AM Sunday, 28 Aug 2011
    If National get re-elected the country may well be stuffed by 2014! Another revisionist piece

    bbfloyd (New Zealand)
    08:35 AM Sunday, 28 Aug 2011
    Still doing your job john. Pushing the meme. "labour can't win". Repeat as many times as it takes to get people to start believing it so they vote the way the nats want or more importantly, not vote at all. Either way it suits the tories.

    And there is much more.

    Peria • Since Dec 2006 • 5521 posts Report

  • Southerly: Tower Insurance Have Some Bad…, in reply to Sacha,

    Smart political communications will take that into account.

    In Karl Rove & the Spectre of Freud’s Nephew Stephen Bender wrote...

    The Triumph of "Turd Blossom"

    Karl Rove – given the above nickname by our jocular President – is an extraordinarily keen student of American psychology and history. He is well aware of the back story to contemporary political fixtures like the focus group – a technique innovated by Edward Bernays. Consequently, it doesn’t take too much effort to discern the afterimage of Bernays’s teachings in Bush’s rhetoric.

    In Crystallizing Public Opinion, Bernays related how governments and advertisers can "regiment the mind like the military regiments the body." This discipline can be imposed because of "the natural inherent flexibility of individual human nature." He also instructed that the "average citizen is the world’s most efficient censor. His own mind is the greatest barrier between him and the facts. His own ‘logic proof compartments,’ his own absolutism are the obstacles which prevent him from seeing in terms of experience and thought rather than in terms of group reaction."

    I know we are not America but neither are we Narnia. So I think your assertion that voters will be put off National by the feeling of being "Duped" by the press is misplaced. The fact is that people just believe the Media because, well, it's the Media, Mother of the nation and all that folksy homespun stuff, you only have to glance at "Your Views" to see that. I have noticed recently that there is some descent amongst the ranks, let's hope that trend continues at a pace.

    I trust people around here to figure out who’s doing what, in the context of this conversation.

    With respect, I can't figure out that sentence at all.

    Peria • Since Dec 2006 • 5521 posts Report

  • Southerly: Tower Insurance Have Some Bad…, in reply to Sacha,

    a populace lulled into a stupor

    It’s hard to persuade people to vote for anyone who is calling them stupid.

    Well illustrated Sacha.
    Take part of a sentence, out of context, attribute your own meaning and construct a statement derogatory to your target..
    This is what the MSM do to Labour all the time.

    I would never describe people who fall for clever Public Relations campaigns (or propaganda as it was once known) stupid, to do so would deny the power of the media and those that control it.

    Peria • Since Dec 2006 • 5521 posts Report

  • Southerly: Tower Insurance Have Some Bad…, in reply to Just thinking,

    Lianne is busy watching Coro.

    I think you must have miss-read that

    For the record I didn’t complain about the content of Coronation Street - I used to watch it many years ago –

    So I don't see your point.
    What I do see, however, is a populace lulled into a stupor by the MSM, National does nothing of substance, for those that are in need but we are suckered into believing that a man who attracted the title of "The Smiling Assassin" is a sincere, trustworthy and caring fluffy bunny and the guy to whom he delegated the responsibility of getting Christchurch out from under the rubble is merely a stern character from Thomas the Tank Engine.

    Peria • Since Dec 2006 • 5521 posts Report

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