Pretty much sums up my view on this whole sorry affair.
On the other hand, tonight's poll is music to the ears of Labour voters.
When it appears that you have cheated the system at the margins, you should be destroyed. But when you cheat the system from the heart of it, you should be promoted. That’s the National/ACT economy for you.
That's class war for you.
I hope she stays in parliament, we need her story - and you shouldn't let the pricks win.
This Greens policy announcement being over-personalised is not good politics, and it would certainly have cost Labour some votes on both edges but I doubt that was some cunning dastardly intent. More of a cock-up.
Oh come now, you surely don't believe that? The timing, the content and the target made the intent unmistakeable.
I don't think Labour has a God given right to the votes of the left, but that wasn't my point. My point was the Greens made a power play - one that involved trying to shiv Labour, there supposed political ally - and it has backfired on them. The Greens assaulted their gaoler and got a baton across the face for their troubles, but they are behaving as if they are victims of the brutality of the system.
"Metiria Turei's benefit fraud revelation was an act of political cannibalism that backfired both for her and the centre-left, writes Bernard Hickey"
It seems to me the Greens are getting a lot of rather undeserved sympathy for this whole shemozzle. Lest it be forgotten, this whole affair and it’s aftermath was of their own creation, and boy what a nasty bit of creative work that was. Like an excited bunch of little political Italians, the hand that held the political dagger decided the time was ripe and tried to stick it into the back of its political neighbor and sometime ally Labour. The Greens - for whom Turei, do not forget, was riding point at that time - thought a clumsy power grab would make them look like a bunch of very clever clogs, triumphally marching to the head of the progressive army.
Only the Greens, as is often the case with Greens, are not as half as clever as they think they are and they made the critical strategic error of basing their plans on the assumption their victim would conform to their plans and simply roll over and expire. Only Labour didn’t and it hasn’t, and now the whole damn lot has blown up in their face.
So yeah, the Greens can cry me a river if they want any sympathy or even a bit of understanding. They gambled on a particularly craven stunt of political betrayal to try and win the day, and they lost hard and in being so inept they've also damaged the wider chances of the centre left of gaining power in six weeks.
The CRL will be the work of Len Brown, not the transportblog folks.
and (some) Green supporters yelling class treason.
Hahahahahaha! The Greens wouldn't know class if it bit them on the backside. Typically self-righteous of them though.
Anyway, I think Ardern has played the politics of this right. Above all, she has been decisive, and the voters lap that stuff up. Pretty adroit instinctive politics so far.
I think Metiria just has to concentrate on living to fight another day. She should survive if the heat is allowed to go out of the whole thing and there is little doubt that she can be rehabilitated eventually over the next few years.
7 Sharp last night was purely and simply a party political broadcast on behalf of the National Party. We're in an election campaign: that program should be taken off the air.
Hoskings has complete control of that show, and the powers that be have abrogated any responsibility to be a fair handed state broadcaster. The only way to get Hosking's off air would be a brutally political one - Labour and the Greens would have to tell (off the record, but clearly and slowly) the TVNZ CEO that his job, and everyone on his board, will be gone if they keep 7 Sharp on air during the election campaign, and they get the chance to form a government.
If TVNZ wants to play dirty politically with Hoskings and 7 Sharp, they need to be shown that is a game two can play.
Little seemed to be hated by the white right wing jocks of the MSM like Gower, Garner and co who took advantage of his lack of charisma to gang bang him at every chance. I don’t know quite why they disliked him so much, but the dislike was pretty obvious. I am not sure if they'll be able to get away with the quite the same vitriol aimed at Ardern.
Modern democratic politics in NZ, with our degraded, depraved and debaunched MSM news and current affairs, is at the electoral level incredibly shallow - presidential popularity contests where how you look and perform in front of the camera is everything. Ardern has on-screen charisma, is attractive, and in sum is “aspirational” to whole tranche of voters who have not voted Labour for almost a decade.
Part of Littles demise has to be put down to a disconnect between Labours strategic plan and it’s ways and means. Labour’s strategy of cleaving to the centre left meant they always ran the risk of being outflanked on the left by the Greens and on the socially conservative right by NZ First, while National’s grip on to “aspirational” NZ meant Labour would not win new voters. Given their political ways (Little as leader, hostile MSM) the risks of their electoral strategy became practically certainties. Ardern is much more likely way to grow the Labour vote amongst soft National voters to compensate those lost on the left to the Greens - in other words, grow the left ‘pie’ that is needed for victory - than Little.
By way of an anecdote, I saw Ardern several months back at a corporate lunchtime event on female leadership at one of NZ’s biggest and swankiest companies. Her star power packed the place out and she was fawned over by staff and management in a way I thought was probably unimaginable for Andrew Little. She has got charisma in spades, and is very popular with the middle class, at least.