Posts by Bart Janssen
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Hard News: #NetHui: it's all about you, in reply to Andre Alessi,
splainingsplaining
OK so here's my feeling about all the terms like privilege etc. It seems to me when most folks enter a discussion they want to be heard at first and only later do they want to hear others. There is nothing wrong with that. But some folks (probably all folks some of the time) are not prepared to learn anything when they enter a discussion. So they say their piece, express their opinion, pass on their experience of the world and continue to say the same thing for ever more. They don't, can't, won't learn from the other voices in the discussion.
It's those people (or it's all people when they stop being prepared to learn from others) that get dismissed as privileged/mansplainers etc.
It makes sense to dismiss them because they take away from the discussion without adding to it. They take time and energy to deal with and they limit how much progress a discussion can make towards sharing knowledge and experience.
But the the problem I have with those terms is all of them are ways of saying "I/we don't want to hear you any more so shut up and go away". Most times it seems reasonable and fair to say that because they are not saying anything that hasn't been said before. But sometimes I think it gets used way way too early. Long before people are sure that the mansplainer etc is unprepared to learn. That's kind of sad because essentially at that point the community has stopped being prepared to learn from the new voice and given up on sharing with the new voice.
That is the huge difference with this community. We embrace new voices, even when we think (know) they are wrong, we (usually) are prepared to learn from them at the same time that we hope they will learn from us. Usually it takes a long time before people here give up completely on a new voice.
And thankfully we are pretty tolerant of older voices when they stray and become boring and didactic like this ...
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Hard News: #NetHui: it's all about you, in reply to Jolisa,
Myopes of the world, unite
Absolutely!
Who said that?
Is that you over there in the red?
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Hard News: #NetHui: it's all about you, in reply to Jackie Clark,
And I just spent 3 hours watching the new Sherlock and still no one has said that :(
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Hard News: #NetHui: it's all about you, in reply to Stephanie,
Ooo that's meta lurking there - love it
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Hard News: #NetHui: it's all about you, in reply to 81stcolumn,
which appears IMHO to require a degree of practice
Which is another way of saying most of us have been total asshats ourselves online and have (slowly) learned how to avoid asshatary and actually say something useful - which this isn't - so - it being hometime and all...
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Hard News: #NetHui: it's all about you, in reply to Heather Gaye,
derailing into whimsy
It is so much more fun to be whimsical than to be angry.
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Hard News: #NetHui: it's all about you, in reply to Danielle,
I’m sure it all serves some wonderful purpose
My conference experience is that what is said in the sessions is mostly irrelevant, the value is bumping into people who are interested in the same things that you are interested in and then getting drunk with them. That leads to collaborations that create worthwhile things.
Which raises the question "why have sessions where people speak?" instead you could have a conference that consisted of eating and drinking together and get just as much value.
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Hard News: #NetHui: it's all about you, in reply to bmk,
where PAS is blocked
They once tried to block Trademe here but apparently the CEO was trying to sell his boat and that quickly got changed.
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Hard News: #NetHui: it's all about you, in reply to Sacha,
True and one oft heard comment is that
"I would post but xxxx said what I was going to say"
Which may be true but they probably didn't say it that way you would.
Only you have had your experiences to inform your voice.
I don't mean that we don't have enough active posters but rather that I really really enjoy hearing other voices.
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Hard News: #NetHui: it's all about you, in reply to bmk,
You never feel guilty about the cost to the country’s production you cause?:)
I read this while I'm reading and/or writing. It's the break that allows me to relax and then think better when I get back to "work".