Posts by giovanni tiso
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We wouldn't be having these problems if Auckland was the capitol of NZ as it should be.
Do you want Auckland to look like this? I'm confused, but not against. It would create plenty of jobs in the building sector
I'm not at all intending to be polemic nor taking offence, but FWIW I also read Wellington in the title of the post as meaning the city.
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Interesting idea... :-)
I actually still have those presentations, the person who took over the job put them on discs so that I could have a portfolio to show to NZ employers. Very thoughtful man.
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About fitfteen years ago in Italy I worked for a firm of geologists and architects contracted by quarry and mine companies to sell to the local communities the minimisation of the impact of their activities. I would create these presentations where we simulated the eventual look of the side of a mountain or the mouth of a valley, and for a while it looked to me like it was based on fairly solid science. Later it became clearer that nobody in those communities looked at the first slides with the hard data, and that the real selling point were the "after" photos inserted at the end. That was my job - and I was some guy with access to a rudimentary version of Photoshop. I still shudder from time to time at that particular thought.
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I just want to report that my daughter has just asked me for some "Mona Lisa". She meant mayonnaise. Ah, art...
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Has anyone mentioned cave paintings?
I did, but that was like years ago.
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Wonder how baby and co are doing?
Danielle and the baby are back home today.
Carry on.
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How about you prove to me...
Come to think of it: don't. I'm finding this conversation deeply unpleasant and to be honest I don't have time for this crap.
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Show me the evidence of these cultures having a conception of art. Do you expect me to abandon truth in favour of cultural sensitivity? You seem determined to make this an argument about race and class.
How about you prove to me that the Greeks, the Chinese, the Japanese and the Maori - who all made objects designed for pure aesthetic pleasure - *didn't* have a conception of art? Because surely if they didn't you'd be hard pressed to explain how come they made all that fantastically sophisticated and accomplished art. You think they were holding a paintbrush or a chisel and they happened to slip or something?
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Nah, Paul's not stupid but he is adept at the ancient British ART of the windup, speshly with some Italians.
I'd be very happy if that was the case.
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I was referring to the craftsmen of the Middle Ages, who were not regarded as artists because there was no conception of art at that time.
Yes, but that's a very narrow example. Somehow you deduce from the fact that medieval Europeans had no conception of art that preceding cultures didn't either, and that contemporary cultures elsewhere didn't either, or that if they did it doesn't matter because it's the definition of art given by Europeans starting from the Quattrocento that makes everything else in world's history "Art". And that's just dumb, not to mention incredibly culturally insensitive. This idea of legitimacy through "rediscovery" smacks of how Europeans "discovered" the rest of the already-populated world.