Posts by giovanni tiso

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  • Cracker: Wallywood,

    Yes, but can you see how what you just said looks a lot like you are making an objective assessment about issues that relate to what is the truth?

    That would be because I am.

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  • Field Theory: A post about art (sort of),

    The problem with that idea is that a plain spade works as a spade whereas a beautiful carved spade still works as a spade but also as an object of aesthetic appreciation. It totally beats me why the work of the person who carved this spade shouldn't be considered art. Perhaps because it was the only art that poor people could afford?

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  • Field Theory: A post about art (sort of),

    Ah - at last -craft v. art.

    The Etruscans had what we call "artigianato artistico" - artistic craft? - centred around their funerary customs. Sculptors would design and fashion amazing sarcophagi and urns which would then be mass produced by artisans. Fascinating stuff.

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  • Hard News: The Internet in New Zealand,

    And while we celebrate this historical achievement with our American brothers and sisters, let us think for a minute of the New Zealanders who would like to us to move in the opposite direction - like messrs Brash and Douglas - so we can rely more on "community and market mechanisms of support".

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  • Field Theory: A post about art (sort of),

    there must be a conscious act of declaring an object to be art by its creator

    I never understood that. The paintings that my children make are art. What else could they be? They're not painted or drawn by numbers. They're terrible and nobody but us would want to pin them to their fridge, but that's beside the point. In fact, one of the best artists I've seen at work was a woman with a severe intellectual disability who painted and drew with the same attitude as a child, and certainly didn't declare any of the final products to be art. But everybody else thought they were, and they fetched in fact quite a bit of money on the market.

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  • Cracker: Wallywood,

    I think that an objective falsehood: it is believed to be objectively true, but is not.

    For everybody but the atheists, though, every other religion is a subjective falsehood. And I don't need to tell you that the persecution of those falsehoods is responsible for a war or five.

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  • Cracker: Wallywood,

    Religion.

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  • Cracker: Wallywood,

    Subjective falsehoods: you never hear much about them.

    Er... really? Quite the contrary, it seems to me.

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  • Cracker: Wallywood,

    Instead we have to deal with a vast interconnected web of subjective truths (was this what Gio meant by 'Intersubjective'?).

    Yes. Alternatively, I threw it out there hoping that somebody would come up with a good definition.

    Of corse once you form that model of how knowledge is reached - socially, consensually, in mediation with a number of expert discourses (the sciences, both hard and social, etc.) one risks forgetting how asymmetrical the conversation just is, and that there is such a thing as privileged speaking positions and power differentials. Plenty of Net commentary is characterised by that wee omission.

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  • Field Theory: A post about art (sort of),

    Bet this blowtorched beauty by Wacko Giaco would give the Tripod a run for its money...

    A run for our money you mean surely?

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