Posts by Danielle
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Hard News: Narcissists and bullies, in reply to Kyle Matthews,
perhaps police encouraged these young women not to take it further :(
Your use of the conditional in that sentence is charmingly optimistic, Kyle.
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Hard News: Narcissists and bullies, in reply to stephen clover,
I might be alone in this
You are not.
In any case, throwing more women at the police force in order to "civilise" it isn't really effecting culture change, is it?
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Hard News: Narcissists and bullies, in reply to Martin Lindberg,
Believe me, I'd much prefer to have darkly alleged and been wrong. Those fucking lying SHITS.
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Hard News: Narcissists and bullies, in reply to BenWilson,
I don’t know what to believe on that.
I'm going with "believing they're totally full of shit", but I am famously uncharitable. :)
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Hard News: Narcissists and bullies, in reply to BenWilson,
The problem is really that these would be charges brought out of frustration about the inability to bring the more serious charges about which everyone really is very outraged.
Yes, but see Brent's post above. In a sane world their priority would be *stopping other girls getting raped*, not *seeing if we can ping them for the biggest crime ever by sitting on our asses*.
Of course, if you believe, as I do, that this "their hands were tied" line is utter CYA tosh, then the point is moot.
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Hard News: Narcissists and bullies, in reply to Finlay Macdonald,
Sadly, a lot of the pressure on other kids to fall in line seems to be coming from young women.
The last time we talked about this, I think it was Megan who noted that of course other women reinforce these sorts of norms, because it makes it easier to believe if you do all the "right" things, and dress the "right" way, and go to the "right" places, it will never happen to you. It's just an illusion of control, but I can see why girls might cling to it.
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Do you really think it's a question of "going to such lengths"? To me it seems more like simple passivity and inaction - failure to follow up when it should have happened - rather than action. It's pretty easy to, like, not arrest people. :)
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Yes Matthew, I allege that the police were lax on this because a) they have rape culture problems and b) the son of one of their own was involved. I allege the shit out of it. Here I am, alleging. <waves>
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Lilith, I'm afraid you don't understand that all these tangential hypotheticals are VERY IMPORTANT MATTERS. Just as important as, you know, what actually happened to those girls and how the police sat on their hands for two years because the son of a cop was involved. We should leave our womanly emotions out of this!
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Gosh, the weird little undercurrent of "tales of duplicitous jailbait" in this thread doesn't make me want to hurl at all.