Posts by DexterX
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Hard News: Living with the psychopath, in reply to Russell Brown,
This has consequences.
Crime state are based on reporeted rather than actual. Crime rates are a long run politically manipulated stat - an example being more resources are put into policing and the crime stat goes up - fewer resoruces are applied and the crime stat goes down.
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Hard News: Living with the psychopath, in reply to Russell Brown,
STOP also works with adolescents who have sexually abused and children 10-12 displaying sexualised behaviour. In both those groups it’s perhaps easier to draw a connection between being a victim and perpetrator of abuse.
Would you deny them this treatment because you have “no faith” in it Jackie? Would you lock them up for the rest of their lives? Those damaged kids you care for, – what say they go on to abuse? Would you lock them up for the rest of their lives? Or would you want them to have a chance to repair themselves?This is twists the "context" or what I feel is Jackie's POV – having no faith in a thing and being on ones guard for the benefit of others is what come across to me – not as you are saying denying treatment opportunities to child victims and offenders aged 10 to 12 years.
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Hard News: Living with the psychopath, in reply to Sofie Bribiesca,
The exntent of the suffering - the prolonged nature - you reckoning is more than right and really where a just outcome would sit - psychiatric assessment and treatment of Hall on an ongoing basis.
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Hard News: Living with the psychopath, in reply to Joe Wylie,
As you're the one advocating a prison sentence for Hall, shouldn't you be spruiking the benefit? From my limited experience of such things I can't see how placing someone who's demonstrably immature and poorly educated into an academy for criminality is going to benefit anyone.
Home detention in response to a crime of the nature Hall carried out over a four-month period, as I said before, places children and the harm they suffer at a lower rung than that of adults. This is the basis of my objection to the sentence.
I also feel that an aspect, which may well have warranted a consideration, is the sentence rendered was the one that would have the least likelihood of being subject to appeal. With regard to sentencing (and although not published) is that “there is a going rate” in operation at times.
One benefit of Hall serving a prison sentence is that it enables those involved in the care of the child to get on with things whilst he is inside. Prison isn’t entirely punitive it is after all managed by the Dept of Corrections.
The offending against the infant occurred over a lnghtly time and it was hidden - Hall originally pleaded not guilty – Hall is taking an action against his former employer for unjustifiable dismissal – He knows how to work the angles to his benefit.
I feel the sentence is an anomaly and manifestly inadequate - that is my view.
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Hard News: Living with the psychopath, in reply to Stewart,
I find it a little distressing that some people seem to feel they can make sweeping judgements on judicial matters when all they know of the case is what they have seen & heard in the media.
Being a free citizen in a democracy I feel I am entitled to express a point of view and what I am saying is not a “sweeping judgement” as much as it may gall many of those who consider Hall to be a victim of the system.
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Hard News: Living with the psychopath, in reply to Stewart,
Hall, while manifestly guilty of abhorrent behaviour & deserving of punishment, should never have been in a position to commit the acts, should have had far better "parenting skills" before being in sole charge of the infant and in an ideal world should not have become a parent until capable of forming a loving and caring bond with his child.
How shall it be, that all your "shoulds" come to pass?
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Hard News: Living with the psychopath, in reply to Joe Wylie,
I am interested in what you think
if you're going to take a narrowly legalistic view, maybe you're right..
When is it that you see one stops being a shild and becomes an adult?
it doesn't surprise me that a reasonably socially aware judge would be reluctant to compound a tragedy by imposing a prison sentence.
How will a prison sentence in contrast to home d compound a tragedy and compound it for whom - the infant, the mother or Hall?
What do you see will make Hall a better person?
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Hard News: Living with the psychopath, in reply to Russell Brown,
Indeed.
Sorry - I don't see 19 years of age as being a situation where a child is raising child.
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Hard News: Living with the psychopath, in reply to Joe Wylie,
muddying the waters
In a wider view of forums where the fork in the road on marriage equality leads into a discussion on that existence of that God guy the direction this is going seems reasonable.
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Hard News: Living with the psychopath, in reply to Joe Wylie,
We are going to disagree on all of it..
The talk moved onto criminal justice - sentencing is a part of that - I would regard Hall as evil and likely borderline - it is fair game.
In relation to your :
The horrible outcomes of people who are essentially children having children
and Russell's
If you read the story, it seems a bit less ridiculous. It's clearly a horrible, fucked-up scene: assaults committed on a baby by a teenager who presumably didn't know how to cope or admit that he couldn't cope.
I don't see youth as a mitigating factor here that lends itself to tolerating this level of violence or treating it less severely.
It is particular to what I will call the “NZ Psychosis” – the profound lack of insight, Hill's infant assault and his sentence are extreme's of that illness – IMO..
The herald article re Hall isn’t sourced from the "Sensible Sentencing Trust" it comes from the local paper – Hawkes Bay Today.
I feel too much time is spent looking for the reasons why as to provide an excuse and an entitlement to lesser sentencing.
This type of sentencing in response to the nature of the crime as I said before places children and the harm they suffer at a lower rung than that of adults. This is the basis of my objection to the sentence.
You are free to disagree.