Posts by nzlemming

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  • Speaker: A Disorderly Brexit, in reply to John Palethorpe,

    Give this a read. Greenslade nails UK Labour's problem.

    Not bad, but I don't agree as much with this bit:

    There is a now mismatch between what Corbyn and his supporters believe; what the majority of Labour MPs believe; and what the wider community of traditional Labour voters believe.

    I think Corbyn is a lot closer to the traditional Labour voters and their beliefs in what a government should do than Greenslade is willing to give him credit for.

    Waikanae • Since Nov 2006 • 2937 posts Report

  • Speaker: A Disorderly Brexit, in reply to Rich Lock,

    It's not the tories resigning en masse from the shadow cabinet.

    From Labour's perspective, it is. The Blairites are the right wing, Third Way, centrists so beloved of Blair. I'm not saying Benn et al are being advised by CrosbyTextor, but it's a classic CT ploy, and well publicised, and I doubt that they aren't being encouraged by their "friends" across the aisle to seize the moment and dethrone Corbyn, which serves to distract the media from over-analysing how the real Tories got it so incredibly wrong.

    And the bloke who threw it should be bleeding obvious, even if they aren't standing there going 'Look! Look at the cat!'.

    Poor twisted boy, the best dead cats appear out of nowhere, unattributed and thus unaccountable.

    The cat is the distraction to get people talking about something other than the thing you want to keep quiet. If journos are asking Corbyn how he voted, then they're not asking Cameron to explain why there was a vote in the first place, or Farage and Johnson why they were promising 350m quid a week for the NHS when they had no intention or capability to do so. And particularly asking Cameron's Cabinet why public servants were not permitted to commit Brexit coping strategies to paper, FFS.

    The journalists are, in this instance going where the story is.

    Good thing you weren't planning a career in PR. The journalists go where their editors point them on the basis of what's been heard on the QT from unattributable "sources close to Westminster". There is no doubt that this is a concerted campaign against Corbyn. The only question is who is the ringmaster ordering the clowns to commit suicide.

    Waikanae • Since Nov 2006 • 2937 posts Report

  • Speaker: A Disorderly Brexit, in reply to Caleb D'Anvers,

    The Tories have just presided over the greatest disaster in the country's history since WWII and we're talking about Corbyn?

    I do not believe that is accidental, myself.
    #deadcat #CrosbyTextorPlaybook

    Waikanae • Since Nov 2006 • 2937 posts Report

  • Speaker: A Disorderly Brexit, in reply to John Farrell,

    Some people in "Italy, France, Denmark & Netherlands Call For EU Referendums".
    Guess who?

    Yeah, I know, and they're referencing the Express, so....

    But it has been cited as a concern for the EU in more sober journals, too.

    Waikanae • Since Nov 2006 • 2937 posts Report

  • Speaker: A Disorderly Brexit,

    This column from the Grauniad is good Britain faces leaderless turmoil. But don’t worry, Boris is back from the cricket

    Boris is no doubt waiting for some of Mrs Gove's "clever people" to sort it out for him.

    ETA Beautiful quote:

    "As for Labour, the rolling pageant of departures from Jeremy Corbyn’s shadow cabinet, and the countermoves against them, frequently resembled an episode of Game of Thrones re-enacted by the Teletubbies."

    Waikanae • Since Nov 2006 • 2937 posts Report

  • Speaker: A Disorderly Brexit,

    I actually have no idea how accurate this outfit is but Italy, France, Denmark & Netherlands Call For EU Referendums

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  • Speaker: A Disorderly Brexit, in reply to Russell Brown,

    This is precisely my view, with added essence of Momentum anti-semitism (a distressingly common trend in the modern left-Left).

    You're quoting the Torygraph, now?

    I'm not doubting that anti-semitism exists, yes even in the hallowed halls of Oxbridge, but isn't this like tarring John Key with every act committed by Slater or Farrar (okay, not the best choice, I admit, but you can't blame Key for every word out of Slater's mouth). How is Corbyn responsible for that?

    Does the British Labour party have a problem with racism? Probably, because Britain as a society has a problem with racism. When empires fall, the sins of the builders come back to haunt their descendants and the descendants don't like it. It's not good and it's not fair, but it's hardly all Corbyn's fault. The question to ask Benn and co is not "Did Corbyn not do enough?" but "Did all of you not do enough?"

    Waikanae • Since Nov 2006 • 2937 posts Report

  • Speaker: A Disorderly Brexit, in reply to Matthew Hooton,

    Why do you think they are so desperate to smear him?

    Because he makes them look bad by actually being left wing. The malcontents are Blair acolytes.

    Waikanae • Since Nov 2006 • 2937 posts Report

  • Speaker: A Disorderly Brexit, in reply to Russell Brown,

    Yes, that's the issue.

    Thanks

    Waikanae • Since Nov 2006 • 2937 posts Report

  • Speaker: A Disorderly Brexit,

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