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  • Speaker: ACTA: Don't sell us down the river,

    Which leads me to ask, why do you think that we need a new system?

    How about you answer the second half of my question above first, since you bothered to quote it?

    Simon's argument is that album sales are down because the labels can't now force people to buy albums just to get the one two or three tracks they really want. They can just buy the songs they want on iTunes or Amazon. The figures tend to back him up. So it's a consequence of the internet, but not of piracy.

    Thanks.

    Wellington • Since Jun 2007 • 7473 posts Report

  • Speaker: ACTA: Don't sell us down the river,

    And piracy is killing the music industry how?

    Didn't you say (and this is a genuine question) that album sales and dollar value were way down? Unit sales hardly tell the whole story, surely.

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  • Speaker: ACTA: Don't sell us down the river,

    That's why I don't like blanket statements about music downloading, or the dismissal of it all as "theft".

    For the sake of clarity, I totally agree. I'm equally unimpressed with the position that it's nothing at all like theft, is all.

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  • Hard News: Please, be our guests,

    One won't need to produce the invitations on the night, right? I'm afraid if would take a vat of black ink to print them out.

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  • Busytown: A turn-up for the books,

    It wasn’t really, as Gracewood graciously claims, Google Books that outed this man. It was Gracewood’s impressive sense of prose — the way style always displays the mark, subtle or not, of one person only; the way language flows or doesn’t flow — that revealed this imposter of a book.

    And might I say how nice to hear Jolisa'contribution and the kind of skill that it requires recognised so eloquently.

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  • Speaker: ACTA: Don't sell us down the river,

    Lies. Lies, scandal and statistics! Nobody buys stuff if they can get it on the internet for nothing!

    Thank you for reiterating my point there.

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  • Speaker: ACTA: Don't sell us down the river,

    Gio, Paul, Peter, Kyle, Keir -- where do you all stand on this? What balance best serves the public good? How should we best move forward? Again: put away the moral thunderbolts -- what might actually work?

    I have no earthly clue. I agree completely with what you write here

    I'm in favour of limiting the ability to make infringing copies of commercial works such as films and books. But I also see the need to limit the scope of that limitation. I regard the protection of fair-dealing rights as fundamental to the public good

    But the problem is that you can deal very easily with our last point - all you need to do is relax a statute - while it’s almost impossible to deal with the former without going nuclear, ACTA-style (and even then, I doubt you’d actually serve any end except to bolster the big players in the publishing industry). So, let me ask you: how do you propose to “limit the ability to make infringing copies of commercial works such as films and books”? And if you think that we can’t, then what system do you propose to put in place to support the people who currently work in those industries?

    Somebody might correct me if I’m wrong, but I think that every time we’ve gone down that path the conversation has always devolved into a variation of “but the artists are not in fact suffering, I mean look at the numbers”. Which may or may not be true (and it applies only to music anyhow), but it certainly fails to answer the original question, and is in fact a way of making by stealth that argument that various people are claiming is not being made, namely, that illimited downloading is okay. So long as it doesn’t hurt anybody, right?

    My personal feeling is that we’re not going to be so lucky, things aren't in fact just going to work out okay in the currently unregulated (or hopelessly misregulated) framework. And if I get archly moralistic at times, it’s because the argument always gets polarised in the exact same way: either with ACTA and the like, or completely against it, whereas I think we ought to occupy a middle ground of sanity, think creatively of ways that artists could be compensated, and the function of publishers recognised and translated into the new environment. Naively, this is what I would expect from a book entitled, I don’t know, The Future of Ideas - The Fate of the Commons in a Connected World. But that’s most emphatically not the case.

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  • Busytown: A turn-up for the books,

    Retwiti, yes. (That belongs to Conor Roberts, I believe.)

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  • Speaker: ACTA: Don't sell us down the river,

    John, Ringo

    Ha!

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  • Busytown: A good read,

    Also, in an attempt to clarify a point for myself, at an academic institution do the same, or different, standards re. plagiarism apply to work created in the academic context -- say an English Lit essay -- vs. the creative context -- say a piece of creative writing, or a script in a Drama course?

    The same standards apply.

    His brothers words at the crematorium were, "quick lets get out of here, its gonna blow."

    Priceless, absolutely priceless.

    Wellington • Since Jun 2007 • 7473 posts Report

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