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Well Here’s some interesting News from the Labour Party Powers that be
WE now have a code of conduct letter that all Party members must adhere toWhich makes me wonder how hard it is to get fired from a party?
Assume it doesn’t apply retrospectively or nobody could stand... ever -
Speaker: An Open Letter To David Cunliffe, in reply to Craig Ranapia,
You’re being spectacularly disingenuous there, Sue, and while you’re perfectly entitled to disagree with me you’re NOT entitled to totally misrepresent me.
Except I actually was surprised by your words
maybe it's my naivetyObviously Cunliff has broken no party rules
But he's manipulated them to get what he wants rather than what might be best for the party, not best for him, but best for the Labour Party.
Starting with his rather unimpressive post election email i feel he has (while staying with in the letter of Party Law) broken the spirit and intent of a good party leader.I thought this was a place where I don't have to answer questions I consider pointless irrelevant, but i have. Did you expect my answer to bring me some sort of Intellectual Epiphany? Because no it didn't, it is irrelevant to me. TO ME.
"rather naive at best." Sue
who will now just go sit in the stupid corner -
Speaker: An Open Letter To David Cunliffe, in reply to Craig Ranapia,
Craig nobody can have it both ways, except maybe you
first - you give me "but Cunliffe isn’t “forcing” anything "
now it's "Sure, he forced the issue "So enough of the FFS please
It's fine to disagreePersonally i think we should all be worried about Gio espousing Democracy. How can those idiots on the right keep calling him Marxist
I wish i didn't have to vote, i don't, but i'm not a subscriber to the world of just don't vote, and if i vote no confidence it will go down as a destroyed vote or someone too stupid to read their ballot properly.it's loose loose, whoever wins on November 19th i doubt will be around come the next election.
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I agree
This election is not about democracy to me
Democracy already told labour a few things
why not learn from that democratic process which represent far more people than an internal party vote -
Also i hope a vote of no confidence in anyone is an option in this leadership vote
Because as much as I like Grant Robertson. More and more, I think this is stupid right now. -
Speaker: An Open Letter To David Cunliffe, in reply to giovanni tiso,
But again, why have this election?
aren't resources better spent looking at why everyone hates labour
then by all means an election for leader if leadership is pointed to as a cause of loss, if not then no need for a leadership fight.why step down then stand up?
I can't get past that.I can't get past doing all this before the review of why labour is loosing, because it's not as simple as the combined opinions of this blog.
This is regardless of my opinion of Robertson, sure I'm not the most savvy well read person on this blog so obviously halve my opinions. But post election the only person talking about leadership elections was Cunliff. Maybe I'm missing some political gene or some male gene that make this all obvious but to me and friends it seems a dumb waste of time
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Speaker: An Open Letter To David Cunliffe, in reply to Craig Ranapia,
"this “expensive process” is the one laid down by the Labour Party"
NO Craig - wrong - the vote only happens IF
Caucus passes a vote of no confidence in the party leader
The Party Leader ResignsCaucus didn't pass a vote of no confidence
The Party leader resigned, forcing an election that he's standing in
He didn't have to resign, that's his choice, the election is his making -
But Why force this expensive process straight after an election?
Sure it makes great media entertainment & the best fun ever for national .But if it's because none of his MPs are doing what he tells them to.
Well STFU suck it in and prove you can lead, turn those MPs around, help move labour forward.If Cunliff wins are all these MPs suddenly going to do what he tells them?
No
So why not do the Hard Work and earn respect? OR at least wait until a decent post election review is done so party members can base their votes on facts not supposition.And remember Robertson did not push this vote, sure he might do so post review, but maybe not.
Also I like Trevor Mallard he is awesome and has been a wonderful support of Hutt based community events i've been part of. Annette King also although i look at how closely she works with Paul Eagle at community events and assume they have an actual succession plan in place for when she chooses to retire.
Finally, no, just no to limited term MPs. There is wisdom in age and experience also navigating the clusterfuck that is politics. For me the ideal party is one that has a mix of ages across the board, you need new faces which labour is lacking, but (and i haven't done the numbers) labours old guard (for lack of a better word)is possibly smaller than nationals it's just that it has so few MPs it's a bit more obvious.
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Speaker: An Open Letter To David Cunliffe, in reply to mark taslov,
Replying to a post by mark taslov
Why not be realistic and use as an example someone who has worked out property investment is the best way to make money tax free, those are smart people. If I had the money I'd do it because it's tax free. Making money Tax free it's awesome because NO TAX, but is it fair?
If everyone else has to pay tax on their income why don't property speculators?
In a fair and equal society everyone pays taxes on the money they gain, through work or through luck - lotto winnings, those are taxed. In our country beneficiaries pay tax on their benefits. So why do one group of people get to play the no tax here card?And the beneficiary example, you haven't taken into account how WINZ will deal to them regardless of CGT.
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I have to interrupt this transmission to have a excellent laugh at the idea of Stephen Judd being a puppet Master. Because if he did the Puppet would sound like Shooby Taylor with the chef skills of Eric Ripert.
But in truth
If Stephen was going to Puppet Master something, he'd do it do so well you'd never know, except he'd feel guilty about deceiving people and tell everyone it was him. Stephen is an outstandingly honest person.