Posts by giovanni tiso

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  • Hard News: Miracles just rate better, okay?,

    Yes insights followed by confirmation but also insights followed by proof that they were utterly wrong.

    And that refutes my point how exactly?

    Wellington • Since Jun 2007 • 7473 posts Report

  • Hard News: Miracles just rate better, okay?,

    OTOH, I couldn't achieve that kind of comfort with someone waving a crystal over me.

    My visit with a (very respected) Wellington homeopathic doctor with Lucia was an hour long and sent my blood pressure soaring.

    Wellington • Since Jun 2007 • 7473 posts Report

  • Hard News: Miracles just rate better, okay?,

    See, this is one of the times where I'd totally understand a GP either a) dishing out sugar pills or b) directing people to a homeopath (as Giovanni reports) Better overall than needless antibiotic use. But then you will inevitably get people using homeopathy to try and cure very serious conditions, and ending up much sicker than they otherwise would have - or dying. DILEMMA.

    No, my GP practiced homepathy himself. And, needless to say, he didn't try to cure serious conditions with homeopathic remedies. Actually, how he diagnosed my mother's brain tumour is a story in and of itself, but he did send her to see a surgeon.

    He was a doctor who listened, which is to this day a very rare breed. I think half the problem with conventional medicine as it is practiced these days in countries like NZ is that you see your doctor for 15 minutes and that's just useless. People crave the kind of conversation you get to have with alternative healers, quacks included.

    Wellington • Since Jun 2007 • 7473 posts Report

  • Hard News: Miracles just rate better, okay?,

    How can you tell if it's a brilliant insight without empirical data?

    Isn't the history of particle physics based on insights that are followed sometimes a great deal later (if at all) by actual empirical data, and does it not in fact remind us constantly of the ultimate limits of empiricism?

    Wellington • Since Jun 2007 • 7473 posts Report

  • Hard News: Miracles just rate better, okay?,

    But in the first case, the actual one, people very rarely die from untreated insomnia

    Actually, insomnia can lead to depression (and not just the other way around) and is increasingly considered a potentially very serious ailment.

    Wellington • Since Jun 2007 • 7473 posts Report

  • Hard News: I'd just like to thank ...,

    Canny.

    Wellington • Since Jun 2007 • 7473 posts Report

  • Hard News: I'd just like to thank ...,

    best rock group, best album and best rock album

    That's very sillogistic. Surely once you get the first two they have to give you the third?

    Wellington • Since Jun 2007 • 7473 posts Report

  • Hard News: Miracles just rate better, okay?,

    There is another aspect to homeopathy, and it's the investigative methodology, the whole person approach - my GP seemed to consider that aspect of it the most valuable, and lamented that it wasn't being taught in medical school. He even wrote a book about that. I would be surprised if things hadn't changed on that front in medical schools worldwide.

    Wellington • Since Jun 2007 • 7473 posts Report

  • Hard News: Miracles just rate better, okay?,

    Where there's complications of course, it rapidly changes.

    We planned three home births for our kids, were able to complete two. We had a good experience in hospital of the one that needed to be medicalised, an even better one of the other two. That said, if we had had to sign a document saying that by choosing to give birth at home we'd forfeit our right to hospital treatment in case of issues, of course we would have opted for the hospital.

    Having non-medical options is good. The fact that we can access osteopaths has been *great* for my partner. It doesn't mean that she didn't try physiotherapists first or that physiotherapy is bad or that there needs to be an either/or antagonism between the disciplines - I'd in fact always like to hear from a scientifically trained person first. But if s/he tells me to try acupuncture, I just might.

    Wellington • Since Jun 2007 • 7473 posts Report

  • Hard News: Miracles just rate better, okay?,

    lots of traditional things can be valid within modern medical practice..

    Which happens to be the point I was making, yes.

    By "get away with" I mean "give you something that will do you no harm".

    Scientists study the placebo effect precisely to explore how "doing no harm" can turn into "doing good", no?

    Wellington • Since Jun 2007 • 7473 posts Report

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