Posts by BenWilson
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Up Front: How About Now?, in reply to nzlemming,
That sounds like a myth. And the problem isn't it coming off, it's more "can't get it on" or "it breaks" or "it hurts" or "I'd rather not even bother, I like you and everything but no thanks". It's a pity, really, and I envy people who can enjoy using one. Sort of.
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I don't recall. Was that something to do with timing the ovulations, or was it a suggestion to count slowly to 14 when dangerous moods came upon one? IOW a variant on the "cold shower method", or the one boys learn at puberty "think of something boring".
Natural Family Planning probably is effective when done properly. Abstinence is, too. But no method is really effective when doing it properly becomes difficult, either because natural urges are too strong, or the system or equipment is too tricky. I've personally had quite a high failure rate with condoms.
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Up Front: How About Now?, in reply to chris,
Well my advice to her is to keep in mind that if they, for some reason, decide not to "pass" her, then it's their loss, and there's plenty more venues out there, and secular ceremonies. If her partner lets religion come between them, then it's way better to know that now than later. To that end, it's actually quite a good idea to go through with it (eta the counseling).
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Hmmm I'm wondering if I should STFU about Catholic weddings on this thread. I hope my tolerance of their beliefs isn't extrapolated to their considerable intolerance towards the main topic of this thread. On that, they need a big wake up. Apologies to anyone feeling like telling me I'm an insensitive arsehole - I've just realized that maybe I have been.
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Up Front: How About Now?, in reply to Sacha,
you're so romantic, Ben
Hey, I grinned and bore it, even learned the Lord's Prayer (backwards!). In fact, I had to put up with more than most - the Church required us to take pre-marital counseling, which actually turned out to be a good idea. Nut out some of the things you may not have thoroughly discussed. The main one that came up was around "raising children in the Catholic faith". I was prepared to go so far as to let them be baptized, but not so far as to make them go to church or a Catholic school. My wife had probably not realized just how strongly I felt about the issue, nor how little she cared about it.
Also, another session, more of a lecture, raised the concept of contraception, and promoted the "rhythm method" and "withdrawal". The sniggers, guffaws and rolling eyes of every single couple there told me how much of a grain of salt everyone took this particularly stupid advice with. I was sorely tempted to ask them about the "blowjob and anal method", but really, the 4 odd hours we were expected to civilly endure this propaganda was quite a small price to pay for the kick-arse venue, and some good things did actually get discussed. Indeed, once the preachy shit was done with, the elderly couple had really sound advice about making marriage work. We've actually used some of the ideas, particularly the one about making sure you set aside regular time just for the two of you to bond and discuss things.
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Hard News: The Orcon Great Blend 2011 in…, in reply to Emma Hart,
That suggests we need numbers.
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Hard News: The Orcon Great Blend 2011 in…, in reply to Geoff Lealand,
* or do enough of us know enough of others by now
My vote is to play safe and assume the answer is no. Think of the lurkers...
Also, I forget names.
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OnPoint: Easy as 1, 2, 22.8 billion, in reply to DexterX,
Yes, I can't get past the fact that I paid a shitload more tax in Australia, lived a much richer life, in a country with much more developed infrastructure, and have a big sack of cash waiting for me there, all because of the superior way those Ozzies manage money - or perhaps the superior way they deal with neoliberals. Certainly I was a bit of a neoliberal when I first went there, and I experienced what a mobilized working class can actually achieve. They just took way less shit from the likes of me, and I developed an abiding respect for their national character because of it.
ETA: And that was ALL under the Howard government!
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Up Front: How About Now?, in reply to Steve Barnes,
Just fine, although she daily violates the Obey vow. There's probably some biblical punishment I could exact, involving goats and a bastinado, but I'm a wee bit concerned about the truly epic punishments they mete out for my own transgressions, the main ones being my heresy, idolatry, covetousness, blasphemy and refusal to stop working on the Sabbath.
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OnPoint: Easy as 1, 2, 22.8 billion, in reply to DexterX,
Makes sense to me. Inheritance would seem to be the main source of social division, the world over. There will still be upbringing, which is a form of inheritance, but I think public education has done a lot to level that playing field.
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