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Which is meaningless. I regularly hit my 10GB a month
I'm talking 50 - 80 gig.
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eight of them in network engineering roles or related, including at major ISPs.
any expansion on what you did at isp's matthew. as in describe the sort of things you were involved in.
I ask cos I could technically say I was working in IT since 96 when I was writing web pages, or actually 86 if you count university tech work dealing with computers etc, but that wouldn't make me an expert on a any of that shit, although like most people at uni I could easily offer an opinion.
everyone's an expert at home after all. Cameron's explanation was nicely worded for an open forum like this as opposed to a tech head forum. -
As your Internet-fu doesn't appear to include the capability to use search engines, have one on me:
sorry, you mis understood me, I meant that your name calling has no impact on me, I want to be offended, but,.... for some reason it just seems meaningless. go figure huh?
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thanks Cameron
that was a well reasoned read.I did pull the figure 90% out my arse of course figuring 90% of people who use the net are not tech geeks, (perhaps its 85%). you'll of course know this by the numbers of brothers and cousins who ask you to fix something simple on their computer cos you understand computers.
the gist of my point is, I think if you make it less than piss easy to download you're going to see a big drop off in people who will do it.
maybe its 90% maybe its 75% but that will probably be seen as a success considering the present trend to no obstacle what so ever to downloading apart from bit torrent client filtering.Thanks again for your post, it was well written and easily understood.
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You read and read and read and don't actually see a thing, it appears
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actually I did miss the isp comment tucked away in your post, just like you missed many key points of where I'm discussing this from in mine, I'll point those out for you as they come up politely, as I have(not backing whats happening just observing & discussing, not an industry person etc)
And like it or not, you do meet the definition of troll.
and like it or not I can't seem to get excited by being called one, it means nothing to me, sorry, I wish I could be offended for you but its just a still word out of roll playing games to me.
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eight of them in network engineering roles or related, including at major ISPs.
can you tell us what you did there?
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Ah, due process bedamned, eh?
absolutely, its bollocks and I've said it a few times on different threads, but I'm not the one making it up, I'm observing,
What would you consider a correct way to do due process Cameron.
you notice in my comment you quoted I didn't say anything conviction without proof, I just noted it was an indication.
The last thing I read was it was inquiry and ask for explanation however well that might go. If all you've got to do is say you're a programmer and its work related than that's my new job description too -
If "the media industry" wants it to happen, they can pay for it.
I imagine they will but you can't blame em for trying to plam it off onto someone else first.
It's not possible.
I've identified 2 things that are possible which you both failed to mention.
data usage.
yes there are exceptions to this, programmers and media industry regularly legitimately send high volumes through and shutting them down is bollocks but the latest word was warnings and asking for explanations.bit torrent info.
This stuff is leaking everywhere, its not hidden, yet.2 good starting points that will not have zero impact.
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would not be borne by your industry
I already said I think it will be the film industry that will drive this. not my industry and I'm not part of my industry, I work outside it, this is nothing to do with me, I simple an interested observer intrigued by seeing this play out. I actually enjoy putting myself on either side of the fence and seeing the view. There's nothing I can do to change it so its purely and observation sport for me.
You're right that it's possible,
That's big of you to admit it,
but you also don't give a flying fuck about the complexities or costs.
yes, that's correct cos I'm discussing possibilities not actualities. I'm interested extrapolating what might happen, looking at it from all sides. it hasn't happened yet, who knows how it will go, but, it is interesting,
Fuck that! If you want this shit done, you can damn well pay for it.
haha, shit man, if I'd known talking about this was going to make you blow a vein..... I still would have done it.
Where have I said I want it done? about a year go I said I think that's whats going to happen, and then when its seemed likely it was I've attempted to envisage how its going to go down.
Nowhere have I said I think it should happen or its what I want to happen, I've put myself in media owners shoes and said if I was them that's what I'd do, but I'm not them, and I have no power over any of this, I'm an observer, and its quite fascinating to see it play out.and for the record I did my uni papers on programming and have worked with computers for over 20 years, most of my work happens on them and the net, why do you think I'm here talking to you guys. I have a laptop sewn to my right hand FFS. I use technology extensively but manage to get out of the studio occasionally too.
no I'm not a sys admin dude, but not the Luddite you might like to imagine, so its ok to get off the high horse now. I didn't pick it up from your brief history but was there any experience in there of working at isp level? I'd love to hear a calm and reasoned response from someone who works for xtra, clearnet, slingshot, xnet, etc, unless of course thats you or mark in which case do lay it out for us.
I'm interested in how this will play out, I've given my opinion and I guess time will tell. In the mean time Matthew, keep a handle on that blood pressure level, its simply not good for you.
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I see
thanks for that mark. that's the most directly you've put across any point.
Sadly you may be right on some of that.
now. pretend you're not a champion for user rights and using some of that programmer knowledge you were spouting on about put yourself in the chase seat. Knowing what you say you know about the way things work in little black boxes tell us how you can see modern technology being used efficiently to grab pirated material and how you might do it to avoid grabbing legitimate users.And I see no diminution of copyright infringement.
that's just complete bollock. you see NO reduction at all? really, by your vision of the dark future everyone is kicked off the net. you think that would have NO effect? zero effect?
come on, purely by the fact it would cripple normal traffic routes the amount of pirating it would kill along with legit traffic is not zero.And loud-mouthed trolls like you.
it would do wonders for the image of the net nerd if they avoided using mythical names for things, not offering any alternatives, just pointing it out. The loud-mouth bit I'm completely comfortable with.