Posts by Steve Parks
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Veiled intimidation being one of Italy's finest exports and that.
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Where did you get banned from?
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you're the scientist
Poor baby.
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Dyan, yeah, it was (as you no doubt realise) a flippant comment. I'm a nervous flyer myself. I've gotta stop watching Air Crash Investigation.
What if instead of abortion we swapped it for infanticide?
Why would we do that? An infant can survive without the use of another person's body, a foetus can't.If the infant in question needs their father's kidney, liver or bone marrow to survive they have no legal or moral right to demand that biological father hand over the use of his body to an infant. I would be horrified to see anyone's rights extend to the use of another individual's body, against the donors wishes.
Excellent way of putting it. (This kind if fleshes out the 'Violinist' thought experiment really well.)
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& please don't stone me unduly with yr rock-hard pointey stoney stuff.
Is this a Richard Worth text?
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My dad survied 2 plane crashes, smoked for more than 70 of his 86 years and recently survived typhoid. This in no way means that plane crashes, smoking or typhoid are in any way safe - it just means that statistically speaking he is one lucky guy.
Or unlucky, in the sense that he was in two plane crashes. How unlikely is that!?
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Is anyone else finding sachae's rhetorical style a little... familiar?
I was going to say that sachae seemed like a slightly more coherent version of little p. But now that I've seen a couple more posts, I think I see the pattern: he/she starts out more or less coherent and with a point, and then gets stoned.
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it sure is, I was going to state that but I thought it was obvious :)
Yeah, well, I would have thought it obvious that the NYT style guide Brickley referred to didn’t support his point like he thought it did, so you never can tell round here. : )
No, I don't concede for rape since I think that the fetus is an innocent person who deserves to live.
So is the violinist.
Anyway, I don’t want to get into too much of a debate on this here. I’ll just point to this article by Jean Kazez that correlates to my view pretty well.
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Dangnabit! "weigh", not "way". Now that that's out of the way...
Steve: not that thought experiement in particular, but I see a few issues with it.
1. the killing/letting die thing
2. the mother and father created the fetus by choosing a fetus creating action - sex (except in rape)
3. the relationship between mother and childAnyways, I'm not going to change my position on abortion, so how's about we just walk away from that debate, if that's ok.
Tess:
I agree that neither you nor I (nor anyone else, likely) are going to change our views on the basis of this particular discussion. I really was just wondering if you had encountered that argument.
Anyway, Re your own points, since you made them:
1) isn't that directly addressed in the article?
2) so just apply it to rape then: do you concede abortion is legitimate in the case of rape? I am of the view that this thought experiment remains uncountered when it comes to abortion due to rape (but not necessarily otherwise).
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you're the best arguer out there steve,
I know. To be fair though, you helped a lot...
I don't get the name calling angle of your comments steve.
don't be such a cock,