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and then deny that you're part of an industry.
I didn't deny I was part of an industry, I was rejecting your culture industry tag because it suggests creatives are the servants of all the other people in society.
protect the rights of the individual except if they're creating something we might want to have. That's the vibe of this culture industry thing. its part of stripping rights from people like islander and I don't want to do that, and don't support any argument that forwards that stance.
I notice most of the people pushing for reduced control to artists aren't artists fighting for reduced control of their own works. nothings stopping people giving their shit away if they want. forcing people to do it is another matter.
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despite the intensive efforts of many here
and while we're at it can you outline the experience of your team of "many".
I haven't notice the only other people who I know by reputation "educating my ass"
ie islander and mr grigg,
mr stowell i know and respect,
don's input I respect, and I'm not sure we disagree entirely,My ass doesn't feel tenderised by any of those people,
you're team seems to consist of mark- hmm -well - hard to know where to go with that, my laugh muscles still haven't recovered from this, but they will, he puts up a good argument however right or wrong he may be and doesn't get all emotional, got to respect that.
introduce me to your scollarly crew of ass educators.
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is offensive.
You really do not seem to have a clue, despite the intensive efforts of many here to educate your ass
kettle, pot, black.
jesus....... you rude b'stard.maybe I do need to know what you're back ground is. tell us a bit about yourself sasha and why we should rate your opinions?
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just got to pick you up on a couple of points you're stating as uncontested fact again there sasha, no offense meant, but someone reading the end of this "threat that would not die" (© johnamiria)
might think they were like actually real. (john, if you stopped reading a thread in the forest would it die? :))Copyright is broken,
copyright enforcement is broken. it hasn't been established that it is unfixable, it's just a question of how far society is willing to go to enforce it.apparently it hasn't finished with messin' with people on this. we'll see what effect that might have in feb I guess. If I get a "stop downloading or we'll cut off your internet notice", guess what I'll be doing?
I'll be really pissed off about it and I probably wont stop watching movies or tv, or listening to music.
I'll also accept it as par for the course, inevitable and fair, how ever much I enjoyed the free for all. i'll probably also be thankful I got a warning and not a massive fine.culture industries
That's a major stinker of a loaded phrase. I think I put up a fair argument for why those two words should never be said together. unless you're referring to trucking out dancers for visiting tourists.
I can't speak for islander but I'm not in the business of providing my society with anything. I do what I do on an independent basis and if society wants to embrace that good on em, thanks for the recognition, but I am not doing it to define my society.
isn't modern society about protecting the right of the individual, equally, how ever unsuccessful that might be. This whole stripping creatives of their rights just goes against the grain on that vibe.
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Am not quite however following the link to the music industry/IP/copyright here.
no, me either, but it seemed quite promising until we all admitted we didn't really know anything about it.
from my limited understanding there seems something vaguely illegal about loaning the same money to different people. that's not what is happening with music and film. it has more in common with rented houses.all this focus on music and it will most likely be the film industry that will make or break things. much more money, power and profit involved there.
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sorry sasha, banking's not my field,
i'll should stick to what i know.
expand your idea for us. sounds interesting
I knew some bankers in london who liked coke in a big way, musicians are reputed to be the same, -
I don't think that's pushing particularly hard
no but you got the points about fans of the product, hated mega corps and doing something as long as you can get away with it so it served its purpose, even more so with the snazzy electric car angle. you can't see electricity, there for it mustn't be property.
make one of the whanau a banker
a banker who steals petrol (or electricity as the new model has it)?
ok, patricia's a teller for trustbank who likes to take her car out down moorhouse ave on a friday night. she's got one of those james bond revolving number plates. that doesn't really help though. what angle are you looking for on this banker thing? -
Rob, when you can sell the same litre of petrol more than once, come back to us with the Jayden story.
as you're aware most examples fall apart if you push them hard enough, but I'm sure you got the point i was making.
its interest that you see media as 'the same litre of petrol' when i is infact small segments of the cost of that litre of 'petrol' shared over multiple instantiations of it. if it was merely "one litre of petrol' then the cost of that litre would hold the full cost of production, ie many thousands of dollars.you be interested to know that the boys hayden, jayden, shayden, cousins wayne dwane shane, and patricia (don't ask) are all getting their cars converted to full electric. that way when they 'liberate' fuel they don't feel so bad about it cos its not something you can hold. they just bowl up to an unguarded power point and 'pirate' it. no bodies hurt in the process, right?
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Am just a little unclear on that digital revenue figure.
just my personal experience of selling through download, over the space of almost 3 years the income from digital downloads was approximately 1/25th of the income generated from normal cd sales, even less since the download site also sold hard copy and a good chunk of their tiny sales was hard copy. ie hardly worth the effort.
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actually I won't be cleaning your toilet at all jon, I quit!
my commenting on the label thing is in view of the often touted comments directed as evil labels taking all the profit etc.I was hoping to illuminate you on their actual role in the process and how much they get, perhaps balance the picture. farmers aren't often referred to in the same light, as evil as they may be.