Posts by Peter Darlington
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hate to be a damned trainspotter but that was not on the original album..only on the odd US re-compile.
Really? I presumed it was on there. Must re-check my vinyl copy. I have only listened to it in electronic format in recent times.
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<quote<Can't argue with the producer selection but I'd add Holland -Dozier-Holland and Carl Craig to my list.<quote>
H-D-H could just about get up there, Brian Wilson as well. There's loads of other great producers from Bunny Lee to Chris Thomas to Dr Dre etc... But I went for Spector over Wilson as he was doing something special without looking or caring at what anyone else was up to. And his sound was highly individual.
Wilson was a pop academic who was driven crazy by what the Beatles and Spector were up to. Didn't stop him being brilliant in his own right, mind you.
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re Lennon...I'm having trouble thinking of anything much worse than this:
Instant Karma: The Amnesty International Campaign to Save Darfur arrives June 12 via Warner Bros.
See, that's a brief vision of Hell, right there.
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As for the sound, Machine Gun Etiquette has al..
God, you'd think I'd been drinking. I meant of course, 'Give 'em Enough Rope'
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<quote>PS. Never could get why you guys love the Clash because they're... y'know... political..., when their aural texture is often awful, but don't like Bob who has the same attributes.<quote>
But The Clash's political statement was a pose, fashion. Check out Joe's drunken ramblings on Rudeboy for a glimpse at the extent of his politics. Their biggest crime was that they obviously had a big effect on Bono...
As for the sound, Machine Gun Etiquette has always sounded jarring and a bit odd to me but their other albums sound great. Their first album is pop perfection, especially Garageland and Complete Control.
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The Band concert footage is superb ....
Have a read of Levon Helm's autobiography 'This Wheel's on Fire'. Not only does he have a great name but the man is fairly punk rock as well.
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though some blame must surely go to Peter for introducing that inflamatory phrase, "the Dylan problem". (One day someone will study, and perhaps even map, the trends in changes of direction of comments threads. C'est la vie.)
Oh guilty as charged. But then I think that all people should talk about music all the time. If John Key could front up about his favourite Minutemen tune and Murray McCully confessed to late night John Martyn sessions the world would be a far better place.
To my ears that album mostly just sounds silly. I do love "She's Leaving Home", the bridge of "Mr. Kite", the reprise of the title tune, and Macca's harmonies throughout, but Beatle John just sounded like he was taking the piss, and quite a few of Paul's songs are just naff.
Heh, I think Paul is one of the luckiest blokes on the planet to find himself up on stage with George and John and that other George at the controls.
So, here's a thing, a list thing! Forget about artists, what about Producers. If you had to name the 3 greatest modern music producers who would they be?
For me, they would be, in god-like order:
1. George Martin
George basically invented modern music. I may not like the result of the L&M hegemony but I think the man is a genius.2. Phil Spector
Phil invented pop. What a sound, what perfect songs. He hated albums and wanted to make each pop single an extravaganza. And many of them were.3. Lee 'Scratch' Perry
Crazy as a rat, the turps and blackberry drinking madman invented (to my mind) the perfect reggae sound at The Black Ark in the early '70s. As an experimentalist, only King Tubby comes near him and they manually built effects equipment and created a load of recording and sampling techniques such as loops, samples, speeding up and slowing down dubs that later inspired rap musicians and dance producers alike.Each of these people were genre-defining. There are a load more that blow me away, but these three are the toppermost.
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My parents are huge Beatles fans (they came to NZ from Liverpool in the 1960s) and I remember as a kid enjoying their early albums (Hard Day's Night, Please Please Me etc...) *and* Sgt Pepper's. There's something theatric, strange and hypnotic about it. It has several easy pointers along the way, and goes wild with Day in the Life at the end.
I probably haven't listened to it in over 30 years though.
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Voodoo Ray is Little Richard pushed into an elevator with Sgt Pepper, Sly Stone, and King Tubby. Nothing happens in a vacuum
Ok ok, you had me at King Tubby. Absolutely agree with all of that Simon. I was mainly Satanically advocating as I'm sure you know, but will confess to being a fan of sound more than lyrics. The feel of a tune is way more important to me than what is being said. Hence my targeting of poor old Bob.
Having said that, I consider the lines "Elvis, was a hero to most, but he never meant shit to me..." to be superb beyond belief so I can't even call consistency in my defence!
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Joe - yeah, I have a friend in Germany who plays in a reggae band. They're very popular! Record contract 'n all. Seems to be all the rage around his neck of the woods.
As well as trad reggae, reggae infused electronica seems to be popular with German DJ/Producers/Labels such as Boozoo Bajou, Noiseshaper, Studio Deluxe and Sonar Kollectiv amongst others producing lovingly created, dub and version infused music. Not to mention Peter kruder and Richard Dorfmeister a little further south who created one of the best modern dub albums (K&D Sessions) of all time. In my opinion of course...