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Troll in this context means,
yeah I know the term, I was making a point, but you knew that.
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theirs
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You are wrong.
your position is no more right than mine, I'm anti sampling.
I think its unnecessary and a purely economic answer to a creative question. that track and its message (its all about money) could easily be turned around on its writers. its all about money, ie them keeping there's and using the results of someone else's.
all of that shit can be easily created a new, it just takes time money and skill, its easier to nick it off someone else. nothing more to it than that. they're not champions of freedom, they're just naughty boys. -
the term troll describing grumpy fucks better fits others in this thread I think ;)
And what you've consistently failed to acknowledge is that I have no interest in taking away any rights that accrue to you now.
is this about acknowledgment? you want me to acknowledge you? If I'm not discussing the issues you're interested in why are you engaging me on mine points, if they've got nothing to do with what you're discussing surely you'd just ignore them. other than that, yeah, I am just fucking with you, just a little I did ay I was bored on saturday,
I was kind of interested in what you had to say on your area of knowledge but you weren't very forthcoming on it. apparently from you page you do have a point but you haven't really made it well.robin entered a good informative post so I'm sweet for now.
I'll see if I can have a read of don's page. I'm glad you're all passionate about your stuff, totally appreciate it when I see it, and I certainly don't take it personally
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it underwrites their creative independence.
is loan sharking, get into bed with the devil and expect what's coming to you.
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you want to be allowed use without asking?
Yep, unless it's for commercial purposes, in which case I'd approach it differently. If I sampled a piece of your song and used it in one of mine, I wouldn't worry. But I then wanted to perform that song or make it available for money, I'd seek your permission and work out a deal that enabled me to do just that.
as simon pointed out that's kinda how it works now, if only people would honor it and work with it instead of inventing some mad scenario of how the worl is being dragged down by it all.
what you do in the privacy of your own home with my music is your business. when you bring it out into the public eye then it becomes mine. if you try to make money off it, then you slip some gratuities to the right people, its only polite, its not that bad a system. at worse you could come up with a whole original idea all of your own and do anything you like with it.
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That's a big assumption Rob when in some genres up to 50% of sales are now digital.
I wasn't making a big assumption, just a little one, and pointing out that if you're worried about losing your collection there's a perfectly good way of preventing it already on offer. Buy a disc. it costs about the same if you buy from the right places.
all of those issues raised in that cartoon care easily addressed. promoting piracy as the best solution seems a little silly, don't you think?
by that logic smash and grab is a good solution to shops being closed at 5.30pm. -
I do it by being good at what I do (toot toot ;).
thanks for that robin, I was beginning to wonder if there was some sort of code of secrecy about the whole thing.
As for infinite terms, I'm against them because they reduce the creative pool that other people can build on.
why do you think that robin?. why is allowing other people to sell my music reducing the creative pool. they can play versions of my songs and sell them, they don't need my versions to go forward.
there's no benefit to the creative pool that can be gained by making me not own my music.
If I develop a style of music there's nothing to stop people being inspired by that and playing in my new genre.If you have a look at one of the links I posted the other day, you'll also note that something like 14 years has been shown to be most efficient for the economy.
like media is the corner stone of the economy. the only benefit to removing control and rights over media is that complete strangers can pick up something they had no part in the creation of and profit off it. take the elvis recordings again, ignoring that the copyright got extended on them. the original label still has them available, anyone can buy them if they want. no-ones missing out in anyway except a few shady back yard operators.
I read the in defence of piracy article in the wall street journal.
the thing about the woman who put a video of her kid dancing to prince on youtube cos she couldn't think of another way to send a video file to her family. this is stupid on all levels. firstly there are countless large file upload sites to do this on, secondly why put it up and leave it on you tube, its a private video.
thirdly, prince is a jerk, why are we surprised, not every media owner acts that way.The other example was Talking heads who had a track of theirs used to back a campaign to attack barrack obama.
why should they ever have to see their music promote a message they didn't authorise. is anyone saying they should? infinite control, or until someone lets it lapse. I can't see a valid argument against it if healthy business practices are followed. -
Some humour for robbery
http://xkcd.com/488/
hat tip the NZOSS forum.a good first effort don
kind of ignores the whole buying a disc and ripping it and having the disc as back up angle but never let commonsense get in the way of a good rant, I know I don't :)
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oh, you're that guy. (backs away slowly)
I sympathise with your point on the invasion of privacy thing and the need to resist attempts to erode it but your solution appears to be
"yeah, I see media creators are getting fucked over royally but that's their problem, don't fuck with my internet". Thanks for the support pal.all of that aside privacy issues have nothing to do with my main point which is still the right to control the fruits of your labour.