Posts by Joe Wylie

  • Hard News: The humanity, in reply to Trevor Nicholls,

    I find Patrick Gower quite endearing, sometimes (not so much recently), but he always looks to me like his face belongs in the pages of Viz magazine.

    I think I know what you mean. More Finbarr Saunders and his Double Entendres (fnar fnar!) than Buster Gonad and his Unfeasibly Large Tersticles.

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  • Hard News: Five further thoughts, in reply to Paul Campbell,

    ven mail sorting was moved to Chch, cross town mail now takes 3-4 days rather than 1

    Thanks, I didn't know that. What I have noticed is that from well before the quakes cross town mail in Chch could take that long.

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  • Hard News: Five further thoughts, in reply to DeepRed,

    Helen Clark’s symbolic peace-making with Jim Anderton was a big step in looking like an alternative Govt in the face of the Shipley-Peters morass.

    Clark, along with other young Labour figures, worked in Anderton's Auckland dairy in her student holidays. These people were nothing if not effective networkers. What seemed like a historic rapprochement was simply the re-establishing of old ties disrupted by the fish & chips gang upstarts.

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  • Hard News: Five further thoughts, in reply to tussock,

    We did better than that in the 30’s.

    In many ways we did, although the history of the first Labour Government shows that they were far from monolithic in their commitment to social justice. As Bruce Jesson’s The Fletcher Challenge reveals, it wasn’t only the Government who trained the workforce or employed the men with clipboards. The Fletchers that reaped a lucrative sweetheart deal from the Chch rebuild grew from being just another building firm to a dominant player in the economy through building state houses.

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  • Hard News: Five further thoughts, in reply to simon g,

    We hated Muldoon and we loved Mandela. Except for … well, most of us.

    Heh. I remember the 1981 election night TV coverage, where an excited young suit with an unfortunately squeaky voice declared he’d voted for “Mister Muldoon” because he’d “got the deficit down”. Three years later the election night coverage was swarming with his clones, all reviling Muldoon as a disgraced charlatan.

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  • Hard News: Five further thoughts, in reply to tussock,

    a working man out of a job was the state’s fault and they’d pay him enough to feed a large family in a free house on a giant section by way of apology.

    The unemployed were expected to work. Having a family exempted you to some degree from being directed to live in work camps, though many who endured the freezing conditions under canvas planting the Kaiangaroa forest in the 1930s left their families simply to work.

    As recently as the late 1960s single men were compelled to live in camps grubbing nassella tussock (nothing personal intended there) in exchange for the dole.

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  • Hard News: Five further thoughts, in reply to Jack Harrison,

    the Muldoon era is hated by nearly everyone.

    The hero to zero trajectory can be remarkably short. A 2011 Facebook fan page for Chch Mayor Bob Parker reached North Korean levels of adulation - 13000+ likes - before suddenly imploding. I rather wish it had been somehow preserved as an example of mass delusion in action. Bob's head crudely Photoshopped onto byzantine icons complete with haloes had to be seen to be believed.

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  • Hard News: The sole party of government, in reply to kiwicmc,

    More of a parking fine style arrangement then an actual prosecution. Both my wife and I got them, seemed to be pretty automated…

    Things are probably tighter these days, but returning to sender with ‘gone interstate’ scrawled on the envelope used to do the trick :)

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  • Hard News: The sole party of government, in reply to kiwicmc,

    I think the number of countries with compulsory voting is pretty small, Wikipedia lists ~30 if which only 11 actually enforce the law

    Australia being one of them – I copped a $55 fine for not voting in the local council elections the other year….

    Some years back I saw figures that appeared to prove that the proportion of Australian non-voters who were actually prosecuted was tiny. If so, bad luck in being made an example of and “thrashed with a feather”, as someone once put it.

    The two Australians I knew who said they intended to vote for Pauline Hansen’s One Nation claimed they did so simply to give the finger to the major parties. They weren’t particularly interested in politics, and happily agreed that Hansen was mad. I believe that her fleeting success was very much a creature of compulsory voting.

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  • Hard News: Five further thoughts, in reply to Rob Stowell,

    Labour sure as hell weren’t campaigning on an end to 5-eyes. They’ve gone along with it whenever they’ve been in govt. I’m not even sure it’s something they could change, without self-destructing.
    And that’s a worry.

    I know it's a different issue, but Labour have been at best lukewarm on their opposition to the TPPA. In fact Phil Goff's practically a cheerleader.

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