there was all sorts of sexuality and gender identifications going on. Boys looked like girls, girls looked like boys and there where kid that looked like clowns.
Which is fine when kids have confidence, parental support and aren’t living in provincial towns still stuck in the 1950s.
For sure David, my post was talking around the data and was specifically in response to Katherine’s as I’m not convinced the drivers could be attributed to a single demographic as much as they are a perfect storm of the many factors that contributors have mentioned. For example this:
by people who live/work/earn/borrow and pay taxes offshore?
Which may encompass a range of situations and some certainly don’t conveniently tick all those boxes. e.g. offshore based landlords paying NZ rental income tax.
Is theirs a good payment model for artists? It certainly promotes itself that way- does anyone know how much of each dollar spent goes to the artist?
It’s sweet, the standard is:
Artist accounts are free. We make money through our revenue share on sales, which is 15% for digital, 10% for merch.
Additionally a pro account costs artists $20 per month and a label account (up to 15 artists) costs $50 per month. Plus there’s a bonus for volume:
the revenue share on digital drops from 15% to 10% as soon as you reach $5,000 USD in sales (and stays there, provided you’ve made at least $5,000 in the past 12 months).
I’m going to be bold and say that today music videos are primarily made for the web and not television.
That is bold, veering dangerously close to Litterickism, though I think I can see where you’re coming from. the “Multi-Love” Interactive Video Game App springs to mind immediately.
“Can’t Feel My Face” by The Weeknd has spent over a month in the NZ top five and the video was only released a couple of days ago suggests that videos aren’t even all that necessary anymore.
Certainly when considered primarily as a marketing tool perhaps they’ve been usurped, but even just looking at the videos Russell posted above I see a medium flourishing, ridiculously talented visual artists pushing the technology in ways that can rarely serve a purpose in other motion picture genres and so the choice not to make ample space for this on TV at the expense of say just one or two reno and cooking shows feels like a bit of a lost opportunity to celebrate and expose music videos and the artists involved.
is this gap, this “magic money” (300/800 – roughly 37%, more than a third of our residential housing stock!) owned/purchased directly by people who live/work/earn/borrow and pay taxes offshore? If so, and the Reserve Bank knows it – then obviously the government knows it too – and neither are prepared to admit it to the people of New Zealand.
When you account for this:
New Zealand’s diaspora is significant and our expatriate community is seen as an important contributor to New Zealand’s economic prosperity. The number of New Zealanders living overseas is estimated to be in the range of 700,000 to 1million, of whom 495,000 are living in Australia. The latter figure equates to greater than one in ten New Zealanders living in Australia.
According to the Australian Department of Immigration and Border Protection, an estimated 640,770 New Zealanders lived in Australia on 30 June 2013.
and then this:
New Zealand’s overseas-born population has continued to increase. In 2006, 23 percent of people usually living in New Zealand (879,543 people) had been born overseas compared with 20 percent in 2001 and 18 percent in 1996.
although around 220,000 of those have been resident in the country for less than five years
“The people of New Zealand” becomes a fairly fluid concept when you’re shaving off 20% on one end/ adding another 20% on the other, it suits New Zealand’s unique style of democracy to a t. If one favours a more protectionist style there’s NZF, but the system is largely geared against them so it’s round round round we go. I’m not sure a foreign ownership register would provide an easy scapegoat as much as expose to what extent New Zealand and New Zealander are abstract constructs.
Those stats on trans kids are enlightening. I’d have thought uniformity (neutral or otherwise) was a poor way to allow someone to explore and identify their identity. But then, I’m not trans. Anyone?
I didn't look at the stats, but if you're looking around the classroom and you're dressed the same as those of the gender you most identify with that's positive reinforcement.
in reply to Robyn Gallagher
BTW, this might interest you – NZ History have a history of music shows on New Zealand television. The final paragraph says this, with my notes in brackets
Thanks for that link Robyn, and your site which of course I’m familiar with ;) that’s great work.
Why not write to NZ On Air and a few broadcasters with your idea.
For some reason I always feel that just writing stuff here is sufficient. Odd that.
To be fair, some others get hundreds of thousands of views.
Indeed, I'm definitely not against them making videos I'd just like to see more of them. Though Nz On Air only being able to fund what broadcasters will screen would obviously be a huge stumbling block without the right kind of schmooze. Going from having NZ music videos randomly playlisted on the TVNZ to having absolutely zero feels so strange, when did that happen? was it in reaction to C4?
Nz On Air can only fund what broadcasters will screen. But NZ On Air’s own Alltracks might work for you.
And thanks Russell, that looks like a pretty decent selection to get my teeth into, the problem for me at the moment is that the room with the PC is freezing and I'd prefer the big screen near the fire but I'll take whatever I can get rather than gamble on the Edge until I know what's up with their schedule.
I enjoyed that How not to be an Asshole episode, in particular hearing Tom Scott talking about his work ethic. Respect.
The Edge TV plays New Zealand music videos.
Thanks for that Robyn, I turned on a couple of times previously and only seen US pap, but looking at the schedule it tells me:
The Music Lab is a half hour feature, showcasing new and exclusive music videos from New Zealand and around the world, FIRST!
Hosted by Sharyn Casey from The Edge Afternoons, The Music Lab is the show to watch if you need to know everything pop-culture before your mates.
It just doesn’t tell me when it’s on, do you know?
Yeah, it’s not the same as it was 10 years ago, but the way people watch music videos around the world isn’t the same either.
I totally hear you and don’t disagree for the most part except that the way people watch everything around the world isn’t the same, we can go online and watch any show we desire – that doesn’t strike me as a reasonable justification to stop TV programming across the board, logically I’d expect to see no more cats on TV ever.
A couple of observations strike me:
that’s $4,000 to record a song and $6,000 towards making a music video. We call it Making Tracks.
WIthout naming names, and solely based on youtube views, some of the videos that NZOA are funding are being subsidised to the tune of $200 per view. Which isn’t an issue in itself except that I want to see what’s going on and I can’t see how surprising audiences with a NZ music video before Emmerdale could ever be that objectionable a programming choice. It’s from watching TV back in the era that I learned of bands like the PF.
chances are the youth being targeted would instead be watching videos on their laptops.
I guess my question is why would it just need to target “the youth”? They seem like the least likely demographic to actually pay for music and being honest, look around you.
Online is so much better.
If you know what you’re looking for, but if you don’t then it’s a bit of time consuming minefield. If you want good picture quality you could buy a Chrome Cast or something etc etc, but even then it’s not really close to the convenience of the clickless experience of a dedicated NZOA funded NZ music show, I don’t care if it’s not all New Zealand music, Space wasn’t, but it was a decent venue for New Zealand artists on our National broadcasting network.
Growing up in the provinces, apart from the music bootleg store, Rip it Up and the very occasional gig we had little exposure to what goes on in the urban centres, I recall being blown away when Marcus Lush played HLAH’s Fish across Face on Newsnight, sure that wasn’t a music show but there was some kind of connection being made. Back again in the provinces, things seem to have regressed back to the status quo in that regard. One can still go to the effort of hunting stuff down, following the various sites and blogs, click on all the links, put on the headphones, but it is effort just to catch a sample of local offerings.
A question, when I left New Zealand in 2003 (before C4) there was New Zealand music on the telly, Every Friday night our flat would tune in to watch Space hosted by Jackie Brown and Dominic Bowden followed by Back of the Y. I also recall seeing NZ music videos randomly slotted between shows every now and then. Since I’ve returned I haven’t seen a single random music video, and I have no idea when the show is on to catch up with what’s going on. I’m sure there must be something going on because NZOA say:
Our music mission is to get more New Zealand music played on the radio, on television and online.
So I’m wondering if anyone can tell me when the music show is on, I’m sure there must be something as funding a bunch of music videos for air play without also funding a show to present them would just be ludicrous.