Posts by mark taslov
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Thanks for that Jan. A wonderful answer.
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seems right Paul, Unfortunately when the highschool leaving criteria is age as opposed to literacy/numeracy, then what can be done?
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Guess I got some of your percents Ben. I did bursary a year early with the intention of doing it twice. My parents advised me to take a range of subjects, one of which was the dreaded calculus. After a year or no work, my 23% was scaled up to 49% which strangely constituted a C pass that year. same kind of thing in physics too, 29% to 51%. (In my defence, I did get three legitimate passes in arts subjects but...) So I decided not to waste my parent's money forgoing a second shot at this strangely skewed testing system, for the university life.
I was always pretty focused on the ideal, that we go to school to learn something, and particularly as we get older, to learn something that will be of value to us in later life. So where you say Jan;
Then I went on to high school where national exams like school cert were designed to show exactly half of us that we were failures and were scaled up or down to make sure that that happened
I never saw the exams like that at all. I saw them as an opportunity to prove how much I'd learnt about subjects I was in the main interested in.
So I'd be interested, after a bit of self-examination Jan, how you developed such cynicism towards your own education at such a young age.
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Tony, Asstle, a rather unfortunate name. But, sounds like a goer... Yeah, I think the only real relevant measurements made are by those teachers and concerned parents directly involved and contributing to the students individual progress.
When the teachers are alienated from the process, and relegated to the backseat in terms of helping to improve the system as we see with this legislation, then of course the Education system will suffer.
There's been a lot of talk here about the students who develop slower etc, but I think, it's also worth mentioning that other side effect of standardized testing; the more capable students (of which there many), who, finding the standards easily attainable, lack necessary motivation to further themselves beyond maintaining these standards.
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i hear you Sacha. Sorry, to be fair, I was picking on you in light of general trends emerging on this thread. Having mentioned your father, I can appreciate you have a deeper understanding of the forces at work than i gave you credit for.
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The testing in China is over the top, the sole purpose of education, is to prepare for the tests. the sole purpose of learning is to pass the test. the knowledge becomes secondary to the purpose of learning the knowledge; people emerge from the system having passed exams and learnt nothing.
A student when asked, 'what is the population of Beijing?' Answered 'four billion'. The numbers were written on the board to clarify whether or not it was simply a language error. 4,000,000,000. (and only 9 million bicycles). This is an all to common problem , resulting from an education system emphasis testing over learning for learning's sake.
having said that, he had learnt the numbers in English. But essentially what we have here, is a nation of ignorant specialists. A very useful demographic for mind control/ propaganda assimilation.
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NO offence Sacha, but your (and not just your)reliance on statistics, and whatnot,, as opposed to an understanding of education as a very personalized process rendered student by student, day to day, lesson to lesson, point by point, is exactly the same supermarket production line line, that the politicians are pulling out.
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perfection? in education?
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Ian,
Taxpayers should demand that Private Schools should be subject to the same testing as State Schools---taxpayers money!
so your in favour of these tests being introduced?
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precedent is a dangerous thing