Is the climb back up to Symonds St near Elam brutal?
No, but it's unnecessary, avoidable. So people will avoid it, unless safety is their primary concern. It's the cycle helmet of cycleways.
I wasn’t prepared for just how short it was, and the bizarre diagonal crossover at one intersection where it changes sides of the road. Then it disappears
This was what I meant by the appalling engineering. Next time, I'll just leave it at the crossing and carry on along the road.
And yet, mustn’t grumble. What else would we have gotten? Probably nothing.
This was my feeling, that it was built the way it is because it's available land. It was a use-it-once-for-the-novelty thing, even though it literally goes within 200m of my final destination. Unfortunately it's about 50m below it. I can't see how that could have been improved, since the only way to hug the ridgeline cuts through existing buildings. So I still use the road. The only actually convenient destination of that cycleway is the bottom end of it.
But really, you’d probably go along the Ponsonby Rd ridge on the dedicated cycle lanes to be added there (if they survive the planning/motorists appealing process).
I would at the moment, but any route that saves unnecessary ascents on a bike is something a lot of people would choose.
Oh yeah, I always forget that K-Rd has an actual bridge. Presumably you'd have to be on the north side of the motorway yourself, so crossing from the NW cycleway one way or another. That would be good, not just for Freeman's Bay but for all of Downtown/Wynyard.
it would involve an ambitious new motorway bridge, solely for cycles.
Yes, or a tunnel/underpass, which would be preferable, since the very idea of it is to avoid climbing to the height required to bridge the motorway, and the direction is all downhill on the other side. There already is a bridge, on Upper Queen St, it's what we have to use now.
But the option shown in the Transport Blog post that Sacha linked to – going under the Newton Road overpass and connecting with a new cycle lane on Ian McKinnon Drive – seems eminently doable.
Yes, it would barely even require earthworks.
thru grafton gully and also under K rd down to freemans bay.
Well it does go down Grafton Gully now, although I’m slightly annoyed to find that despite it going the full length of the University there is not one convenient access point, unless you were going to Owen Glenn Building. All the rest involve a stiff uphill climb at the end of your trip. Admittedly it’s hard to see how they could have done anything else, but it’s just saddening to have a big cycleway go right past the University and yet to find that using the road is still more convenient. It’s basically nothing but a city bypass at the moment.
As for what it does at the bottom of the gully…dear God who thought of that? It’s the worst piece of engineering I’ve seen in ages.
I'm not sure how you think it could go under K Rd to Freemans bay. A tunnel?
> The difference in entitlements and support is HUGE.
Definitely is in my son's case, having experienced before and after.
Over 500 people have read this already.
Yes, and pretty much everyone who writes seems to have been away on holiday so we've had plenty of pictures but not much discussion going on for a few weeks on any topic. Give it a bit more time.
Is the existing northwestern cycleway going to be at all rerouted in all of this? It's always been a big hole in an otherwise very good cycleway (especially since the lower streets of Kingsland were cut out) that the cycleway is forced to depart from the motorway and rise up (and it's quite a rise) to Unitec, then cross Carrington Rd with no bike friendly option at all (in fact it's quite especially bike unfriendly, with high kerbs, sharp corners with pedestrians, and those horrible trees that drop little morningstars on the ground), before entering a suburban street, then rejoining the cycleway at the bottom of that street at a sharp angle where another street comes out.
In all of the gigantic work done there, is it going to come to pass that the cycleway could follow the motorway under the Carrington Rd bridge and coast sweetly down to where it resumes at Chamberlain? In short, could the vertical detour through Pt Chev become optional for every rider on the cycleway (and every pedestrian too) who hails from further out than Pt Chev?
That was a sight that mightily impressed my boys as we drove past. Why were they all lined up for Christmas, like a row of gifts? Were they having their own party?