Posts by Joe Wylie

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  • Hard News: Play Time,

    I don't know about Julian Clary being gay but I do know he is a New Statesman columnist.

    That's nice. The last I'd noticed he was trying to be Kenneth Williams, but only appeared to be succeeding in blurring the distinction between Carry On and carrion.

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  • Hard News: Emma Hart is a werewolf,

    First, take away the intellectual impairment aspect, and how would you prevent this happening to any vulnerable person?

    Not sure what you mean by 'any vulnerable person'. Perhaps anyone who's taken advantage of in daily life could be seen as intellectually impaired?

    As it happened, the young person I've given as an example did attend a one-week course which involved such skills as deciphering supermarket ads. And they bought a sweatshirt especially for the occasion, with their own money, with 'University of Paris, Sorbonne' proudly emblazoned across the front. I'm sure the course helped.

    As a way of addressing the vulnerability of people with particular needs without violating or curtailing their rights , the Circle of Support concept sounds great. I only wish that such things had been more developed back in the day.

    Regarding the division between 'society' and the disabled, there are times when being a caregiver for a dependent person with a disability can seem like a disability in itself.

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  • Hard News: Emma Hart is a werewolf,

    People have a variety of impairments - intellectual, sensory, mental health, ASD, physical - but it is society (attitudes, structures, laws, even pay rates etc) that disables.

    A practical case: a young person leaves school and starts work in an IHC facility. Their earnings are supplemented by a disability benefit. Naturally they're delighted to be part of the larger world and have their own money to spend as they please. Unfortunately they're soon ripped off by an unscrupulous retailer, and make a ridiculously large donation to a predatory religious group, something they immediately regret. As they're a minor, their caregiver is able to place a limit on how much they're able to withdraw from their account.

    At their workplace, a social worker enquires whether they have any issues they'd like to discuss. They complain that they're not allowed free access to their earnings. The social worker visits the caregiver and delivers a sermon on the rights of the disabled. Over time the young person develops an ability to handle their own money that exceeds their caregivers hopes, but until then the social worker's admonitions are ignored, and the young person's access to their own money remains restricted.

    That story had a happy outcome, but I know of a recent case of someone with an intellectual disability who left home in their mid-30s, and quickly fell victim to loan sharks. No-one's rights were violated in resolving the problem, but there was a considerable cost to family members. In a better world, Hilary, how might such issues be avoided?

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  • Up Front: The Up Front Guide – How to…,

    The Donkey of Thesis Completion.

    Hope you were able to finish the thing without busting your ass.

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  • Hard News: Emma Hart is a werewolf,

    medicalised silos

    heh!

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  • Hard News: Emma Hart is a werewolf,

    Hilary, very much appreciate the links, especially the Donald Beasley Institute. While I've yet to read the reports in detail, I'd like to say that, while the transition and closure seems to have been handled admirably, through the 80s the institution was allowed to run down for politically expedient reasons. This is hinted at in the Beasley Report's mention of the "working life in an institution in its heyday and as it gradually closed". I don't believe that this was done in the best interests of the inmates.

    With hindsight, Kimberley should have been phased out earlier with the welfare of the inmates paramount, rather than first reducing it to a dismal shell of an institution. There's a book, the title of which I won't mention here, which purports to be a history of the place, but it's an abominably written travesty.

    Kerry, I'm glad that someone's mentioned psychiatric issues. I think this reinforces just how diverse the term disability is, and how overgeneralising can sometimes obscure issues. My interest is driven by my experience with intellectual disability, specifically those who measure as low IQ. This is completely different from, say, Russell's coalface involvement with Asbergers/autism, and the whole other world of psychiatric disabilities, not to mention the special concerns of the deaf.

    While the concept of a disability community might be useful in a given situation, many of these groups, if that's how they might choose to see themselves, have as little in common with one another as society at large does with the disabled in general. I've seen a young sufferer from birth trauma intellectual impairment recoil in horror from a group of Downs people that someone had suggested they might benefit from working with. At the time I could only sympathise.

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  • Hard News: Emma Hart is a werewolf,

    I have been to about four conferences where keynote presentations have been given by people institutionalised as children for their severe disabilities, either intellectual or physical or both, and some are still non-verbal, and require extensive support. All fought to live in the community. Technology has now allowed those who do not speak to communicate through words.

    I'm sure you'd have found a lot in common with those who fought to improve the lot of people with intellectual impairments, such as the late Charles Guy, head attendant at Levin from its inception until his retirement in the 1960s. Your mention of the advantages brought by technology is very much reminiscent of his enthusing about the huge improvement in the quality of life enjoyed by hydrocephalics since the development of the cerebral shunt.

    Respect, Hilary - you're advancing an honourable tradition.

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  • Hard News: Emma Hart is a werewolf,

    Joe, have you seen "Out of Sight, Out of Mind"?

    Thanks Sacha, wonder how I might be able to track that down?

    I've known a few people who worked at Templeton as far back as WW2, and a few who were 'patients' there. A couple of them are still on deck. I'm more familiar with Levin, which was started just after WW2, largely with former Templeton staff and inmates.

    Attempting to build a case for a sinister historical eugenics-driven agenda in NZ doesn't quite stack with reality. Please remember, at a time when euthanasia in the name of eugenics was being carried out in Europe and Japan, the wartime NZ government was 'manpowering' people into caring for the intellectually disabled., often against their will. I've heard stories of more than one nervous breakdown suffered by people who were totally unsuited to such work, and by the disturbing sadistic tendencies of some staff.

    Fortunately this was NOT the prevailing culture. Surely it's a testimony to the inherent humanity of this country's policies that things worked out as well as they did. Interesting that you mention Plunket. While Truby King seems to have held some barkingly nonsensical views, I doubt that anyone would dispute that the organisation was a major force in improving child healthcare.

    My impression is that, while 'psychopaedic' institutions such as Templeton eventually grew too large and centralised to meet the needs of a changing society, up until the 1970s they were, by world standards, largely humane and progressive.

    While too much time has passed now, it would be great to have a better record of the stories of inmates - to the extent that this would be possible - along with staff and, perhaps as important as any, parents and caregivers who either surrendered or volunteered their charges to such places.

    I'm not interested in casting myself in the role of apologist for the methods of an era whose time is well past. Just saying, in the late 80s I visited a group of former patients I'd known from my younger days at Levin, adult males whose facility had been closed in order to place them in Salvation Army care. Without the community and freedom to move about that they'd once enjoyed their lives seemed sadly impoverished. It was largely a cynical cost-cutting measure carried out on the pretext of patients' rights.

    I don't believe that extreme concepts of racial purity and 'breeding out' congenital deficiencies were given any real credence here by the 1950s - the prevailing culture was far too pragmatic for such nonsense. There was an enormous emphasis on providing quality of life within the institutions of the immediate postwar decades. That's the essential difference between the way things were then, and the current emphasis on integration into the community. Rather than congratulate ourselves on our comparative enlightenment, we might do well to realise that we have a worthy history to learn from.

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  • Hard News: Emma Hart is a werewolf,

    Hilary, Sacha - thanks. I'm not knocking People First. As I'm a little underwhelmed by my past dealings with IHC I'm certainly impressed that the organisation has moved beyond that association.

    I've learnt the hard way that one should attempt to remain open to all developmental possibilities, even when such hopes are sometimes rewarded with crushing disappointments. In my own case I've been incredibly fortunate, though I know of others who've wondered what they've done to have such a burden placed on them.

    I'm aware that advocates for the intellectually impaired must often deal with cases where family members exploit the vulnerable. When you're responsible for someone who aspires to enjoy what the world offers, but is at risk because they lack the developmental skills, few things are more grating than receiving a well-meaning lecture on the rights of the disabled. I've felt a lot of resentment on occasion towards those who claim to know, but are able to confine their involvement to work hours.

    I'm still somewhat troubled by references to people with profound and clearly identifiable intellectual disabilities being incarcerated against their will. While this no doubt happened, it certainly was never widely practiced in living memory. The notion that such people were largely potential Christy Browns or, Dog forbid, Forrest Gumps. is simply romantic.

    Please consider that intellectual disabilities sometimes require a more intensive degree of care than any poor parent could provide. While many of the intellectually impaired continue to grow and develop throughout their lives, sadly there are those who won't, simply because it isn't physically possible. Along with a general advocacy of human rights for those with such disabilities we need to ensure that they receive appropriate care and support. Forgive me for harping on this point, but there are a disturbing number of people with intellectual disabilities in NZ whose 'rights' have only lead them to jail and alcohol abuse.

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  • Hard News: Emma Hart is a werewolf,

    People First is a self-advocacy organisation for people with learning disabilities (their preferred term) and I'm sure it has members with microcephaly.

    Sure Hilary. And if the entire site wasn't designed, built and maintained by those with profound intellectual disabilities then I'm sure it's only due to the entrenched prejudices of people such as myself.

    Having spent a fair chunk of my adult life involved in raising someone with an intellectual disability, I'm not unfamiliar with the glib admonishments of those whose involvement extends no further than advocacy.

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