"steering into lumps of electronics"
Hmmn, "steering" or "staring"? Actually, both seem equally good descriptions. At least in my case.
Yesterday, a man of Lebanese descent was on morning report. He had just had the Privy Council declare a substantial miscarriage of Justice. This man declared that he knew the Dunedin CIB had a culture of extreme sexual depravity in the past, and that he personally knew of a policewoman who was raped and sodomised.
If I search on "Lebanese" in the yellow pages, I get 4 hits. If I search on "Chinese", I get 423 hits. If I search on "Vietnamese" I get 72 hits. It just happened to be a Lebanese restaurant ....
Don't get me wrong. I think Wishhart is a distasteful religioius maniac. I also think Labour have nothing to do with the police scandals, and have in the past done nothing wrong and everything right on this issue.
But let's not throw the baby out with the bathwater. All the signs, including statements from the Police Commissioner, indicate there was something sick in the Dunedin CIB. That it why it has been referred to the Police Complaints Authority.
Stephen - thank you for clarifying your comments. I appreciate that. I'm not trying to get at you with this post. Given the statistics I quote above I hope that you see it was reasonable of me to doubt the conincidence. All I am trying to do is indicate to Russell that my comment was, in fact, made in good faith.
So Steven, is that a slur on Joe Karam, for being Lebanese and believing the Dunedin police used to be corrupt? Or is it a slur on Lebanese more generally?
Or is a slur on anyone who owns a copy of the magazine that has been so vigorously discussed in this forum?
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Yes Russell, my point is that, consciously or subconsciously, you automatically protect Craig, and that other bloggers don't get the same consideration. This occurs to the extent that I think this is a weakness in the Public Address System.
I wasn't trying to obtuse. My perception has been that you are unwilling to consider this point. By making the point indirectly, I hoped that it might prompt some more thought than if I stated it baldly.
If you would like to have a conversation about it, I am a willing participant.
I feel a sense of deja vu ... again.
But I if I say anything about it, I feel that RB will flame me. Again.
I strongly recommend that anyone who is interested in this listens to the following Morning Report interviews. The first one, with Howard Broad confirms that the police did react to problems with the sex ring inquiry, although apparently not with criminal charges.
The second one, with Joe Karam, explains some of the issues with Laniet's phone and diary, which do seem to beggar belief.
For the record, I support Howard Broad, and think Helen Clark's reaction to the accusation against him is exactly right. Similarly, the referral of the complaints to the Police Complaints Authority is, in my view, exactly the right thing to do.
Good point Ben.
I don't think the involvement of Wayne Idour should necessarily be seen as the kiss of death. He was also involved in the David Bain defence. The law lords have just found a substantial miscarraige of justice occured in that particular case.
We Kiwi's are a funny mix. We are, I think, the youngest society in the world. Even the Maori are the youngest indigenous soceity. This youth gives us a self-belief and willingness to try different things. But on the other hand we were colonised in the Victorian era, and Victorian social attitudes seem have persisted until quite recently. To me, those quotes are a wonderful expression of the conflict between those forces.