Posts by Steve Barnes
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One person out of the dozen decides to pick up their weapon when the police say "hands up" and who knows what's going to happen.
Well. We wouldn't now be talking about whether they were terrorists or not. We would be talking about the heroic police pre-empting a terrorist action, or would we? I think, maybe, there are some in the police that would have preferred this scenario but I may be wrong, it has happened before, honest. (me being wrong that is)
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"It'd have to be a, some sort of f......, sudden f......, because what it'll do, it'll come down on the thinking of the people, they'll think it's al Qaeda ... It's gotta be sudden and it's gotta be brutal."
Other suspect says: "Don't piss around with cities or doing the bush thing ... just go to Parliament."
Two suspects in bugged vehicle, August 17, 2007.This could be interpreted as suspect 2 suggesting that instead of acts of violence suspect 1 should become an MP.
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"Just wait till he visits somewhere and just blow them"
Well that worked for the republicans with Clinton ;-)
But on a more serious note
D.P. "October: Intercepts suggest another camp on October 12-13.
October 10: Police file 156-page affidavit to Manukau District Court seeking search warrants.
October 15: Armed police execute series of raids."
Why didn't they go in on the 12-13th? and catch them "red handed" and get real evidence of military training? rather than going in 2 days later and photographing women and children going about their rightful everyday lives.
On the subject of firearms. It is an offence to suply weapons to someone without a firearms licence. Also you can have your licence revoked if the police suspect that your firearms might fall into the hands of someone who is not a "fit and proper person"
27Revocation and surrender of firearms licence
(1)Where, in the opinion of a commissioned officer of Police,—
(a)Any person who has been issued with a firearms licence is not a fit and proper person to be in possession of a firearm or airgun; or
(b)Access to any firearm or airgun in the possession of the person to whom a firearms licence has been issued is reasonably likely to be obtained by any person—
(i)Whose application for a firearms licence or for a permit under section 7 of the Arms Act 1958, or for a certificate of registration under section 9 of the Arms Act 1958 has been refused on the ground that he is not a fit and proper person to be in possession of a firearm or airgun; or
(ii)Whose certificate of registration as the owner of a firearm has been refused under section 10 of the Arms Act 1958 on the ground that he is not a fit and proper person to be in possession of a firearm; or
(iii)Whose firearms licence has been revoked on the ground that he is not a fit and proper person to be in possession of a firearm or airgun; or
(iv)Who, in the opinion of a commissioned officer of Police, is not a fit and proper person to be in possession of a firearm or airgun—
the commissioned officer of Police may, by notice in writing under his hand, revoke the firearms licence, and the person to whom that firearms licence has been issued shall upon demand surrender the licence to a member of the Police.
(2)Any person may at any time surrender a firearms licence held by him.
(3)Where a licence is revoked under subsection (1) of this section or surrendered under subsection (2) of this section, the person to whom the licence has been issued shall cease to be licensed to possess firearms, airguns, pistols, or restricted weapons by virtue of that licence or any endorsement on it.So the Dom Posts publishing of this "evidence" is prejudicial to the case regarding firearms as the public perception of the accused is more likley to be that they are not "fit and proper" people.
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Sorry kyle ;-)
What do you want from me? Ten Hail Marys?
Bloody Marys would suffice although any other form of cocktail maybe suspect.
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Nice post Sara, eloquent with a touch of humour.
And I’m a second generation Wigger/Nigger lover. Beat that.
I remember being grossly embarrased when my Mother, back in the 60s, gave a bag of old clothes to the road sweeper, who happened to be a Sikh, the look on his face was that of someone who had just been handed a turd. She meant well but.........
I still cringe at the thought. -
Shep
Steve I couldn't find what I was looking for in the Police Act- any pointers?
I've just read through your posts and can't figure what exactly you were looking for, unless it was the arms act you need?
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Kyle, the term "spaz" originated in the early 1960s in the UK and was a derogatory corruption of the word Spastic, I know I was there. I am not overly PC in fact I have been known to be overtly rude and obnoxious, ask either of my friends, but in this forum I cringe when I here such terms used even if in ignorance, sorry.
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I would like to see chapter & verse of the Police Act (if you've got it & the time to spare)
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I think a report several years ago estimated that there were something in the region of 20 to 30 thousand illegal firearms in circulation.
That is interesting. Can you find the reference?
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You know something of police incompetence with firearms then Steve?
You did say licenced, not competent
Johnno or A S - Can you tell me if the "police" who conducted the raids were licenced to use their firearms?
Ok I was being picky but if you had meant what you said it would indicate something other than knowledge ;-) I must ask. Why "Police" are you suggesting they weren't real police?