Posts by FletcherB
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And of course, because everyone is reacting from thier own viewpoint.... they frequently dont detect when/why everyone else thinks they are batty... and they go on pushing their cause whilst appearing batty, and they do the cause more harm than good.
I can see that sometimes, a cause/group needs to "act up" to get publicity... but they need to be very carefull not to step over the line...
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Sorry, no real insights here... I find psychology interesting, but have no more aquaintance with it than the layman.... I've never studied it, even informally.
Although I will offer this observation....
If you are an activist, and you want the public to take your issue seriously, accusing everyone that doesnt agree with you as being irrational biggots is not the way to get them on-side :)
Everyone reacts to situations from their own viewpoint (obviously)... people who dont share your viewpoint will frequently conclude your reactions as anywhere between a little eccentric to completely batty....
If you are trying to garner popular support for a particular cause, but the only time the public hears from you, you seem batty... then the actual justification or validity of your cause wont even get a look in as far as the public is concerned.
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So from these responses so far my sense is that now that the immediate "crisis" regarding "terrorism" has subsided in people's minds abit, you are considering the possibility that the police action was a bit excessive and that there might be valid complaints. So maybe the vehemence against at that stage was a product of feeling threatened?
Sara... it goes both ways.... Maybe some people who felt threatened by the police actions were reading more into others comments than was really there...
As Dannielle said, I also dont have a horse in this race... and I never seemed to see complete denial of police over-reaction in statements made by "reasonable" commentators like Russell and others. (yes, I'm ignoring talk-back radio, because its not reasonable).
So if the 'mainstream consciesness' has settled down and is now, in your eyes, more prepared to beleive police may have behaved inapropriately... maybe its not just "us" thats calmed down? Maybe now you can see nuanced grey in others comments where, earlier feeling under threat yourself, you only saw black because it wasnt in complete accordance with your white?
Stepping back and calming down is good for all.
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I'm glad Sara has now had a chance to explain herself.... because she did it far better than I could have...
But I thought her post was fairly clearly comparing, not the substance or degree of alleged crimes/incidents.... (alleged by the police or the people detained) but was comparing the conclusions "the public" is prepared to draw to (dare I say jump to?) about what did or didnt happen based on incomplete/undisclosed information...
And as I find myself in the position she describes... ie I largely beleive Rickards is guilty as sin, and incidents in Ruatoki probably didnt happen as descibed, largely overblown, possibly minor issues only... I can see her point that this is indeed a contradiction, and I do wonder how I come to such conclusions based on such scant evidence...
So I think her questioning these points, even if I'm not sure the conclusion she suggests is correct, is entirely valid and not deserving of being jumped upon....
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arrggh..... "havent" is the word I was looking for :)
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I didnt realize Innovations catalogs still existed.... I have seen one in over five years....
I wonder what I did to get off their mailing list?
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Man... the thought of skating down Liverpool street scares the heck out of me....
Although I personally dont like speed without the protection of a vehicle around me, I know that others do, so I can see how that might appeal..... its just the fact that at the bottom, theres only about 20-30 metres of flat before walls + fences mean there's NOWHERE to slow-down... the ONLY way to slow/stop would be crash or slide, and you'd know that before you start
I guess that's why this chicken arse isnt a daredevil?
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IntOb said..
5. Which of the following was not the acronym of a interest group active in the 1970s?
(b) SPUC
I'm pretty sure the Society for the Protection of the Unborn Child were fairly prominently opposing abortion around then?
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No no, NZ's answer to Krumping is Crumping.
Is that like, telling tall tales in a slow drawl, driving Toyota pick-up trucks, and making fun of short blonde men called Scotty?
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Re: The shorty street murderer "leak"
1) not just 'real' news, but front page? Really? For F@#& sake...
2) if it really was a leak, why were there three options for who dunnit?
I'm sure this is a publicity exercise by the production company or TV channel.... the only real question, is one of the three leaked endings the real one, or are they all fake?