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  • Hard News: London's Burning,

    I did not say the red short movement was swiftly or violently put down or that the Thai government acted oppressively.

    The info I got immediately after the election was in early July that there was a "refusal" by the Electoral Commission to acknowledge the Prime Minister and others and that further protests were likely in relation to the swearing in or recognition ceremony. I got this from a World News (WN) article.

    I didn't follow it past this Mid July to see how it was resolved – but noted at the time out of 500 seats the commission only initially acknowledged only 350 of the results and this from memory did not include the incoming Prime Minister. I did also read somewhere that there were further red shirt protests were planed/likely as a result.

    I am happy to stand corrected and note the delay to the swearing in/acknowledgement is now regarded as a Royal Snub to the incoming administration via the electroal commsision; there was potential fro matters to spiral out of hand.

    The election took place on the 3rd July and it took until the 27th July for the electoral commission to acknowledge the result. The initial refusal was made formal on the 12th of July. I understand presently the opposition are challenging several marginal results and further by elections are likely.

    The swearing in of Yingluck Shinawatra as Prime Minister did not take place until 9 Aug.

    Looking at the process in Tgailand to actually form a govt requires 475 of the 500 seats to be certified by the electoral commision and I am not sure where the electroal commission are with this, if they have not reached that threshold then there is still potential for the result 3 July 2011 to be overturned.

    Auckland • Since Nov 2006 • 1201 posts Report Reply

  • Hard News: London's Burning, in reply to Simon Grigg,

    I did not say anywhere that the red short movement was swiftly or violently put down or that the Thai government acted oppressively.

    The info I got immediately after the election was in early July that there was a "refusal" by the Electoral Commission to acknowledge the Prime Minister and others and that further protests were likely in relation to the swearing in or recognition ceremony. I got this from a World News (WIN) article. I didn't follow it past this Mid July to see how it was resolved – but noted at the time out of 500 seats the commission only initially acknowledged only 350ish and this did not include the incoming Prime Minister. I did read somewhere that there were further red shirt protests were planed/likely as a result.

    I am happy to stand corrected and note the delay to the swearing in/acknowledgement is now regarded as a Royal Snub to the incoming administration but had the potential to spiral out of hand. The election took place on the 3rd July and it took until the 27th July for the electoral commission to acknowledge the result and the initial refusal was made formal on the 12th of July. I understand the opposition are challenging several marginal results and further by elections are likely.

    The swearing in did not take place until 9 Aug.

    Auckland • Since Nov 2006 • 1201 posts Report Reply

  • Hard News: London's Burning, in reply to BenWilson,

    There are any number of tweaks that would make an enormous difference. You have mentioned many of them yourself.

    You are suggesting DexterX act as a benevolent dictator, it is NZ's only real hope, No?

    Auckland • Since Nov 2006 • 1201 posts Report Reply

  • Hard News: London's Burning, in reply to DeepRed,

    The Sharpeville massacre bears no relation to the present riots in London.

    The London riots are not representative of a serious movement to overthrow the government and challenge the social order of the day – they are in the nature of opportunistic looting and rioting.

    Riots/uprising that are politically based and take place in an environment with over arching oppression are swiftly and violently put down – as is the mode of oppression.

    It is interesting to me that in Thailand an organiser for the red shirts was shot in the head at a rally or on the barricades and that although there has been a democratic election with a result that favoured the red shirts the govt/prime minister has not been sworn in.

    I have no knowledge of the I am not qualified to comment on Brazil BOPE or Brazilian politics and my views here would be 30 years out of date. The only comment I can offer about the BOPE is that in Brazil the two movies based on its operation Elite squad and Elite Squad 2 have been box office successes and the video game also does well.

    What the conservative coalition, particularly in London, is likely to be held to account for, in the electoral process, is the perception that the initial response was inadequate. It took time, too long for many, for the police and the govt to organise an adequate response.

    Had the riots broken out in a more affluent suburb, more connected to the conservative coalition, would the initial response have been more adequate and contained the situation at the outset.

    Conversely if there had been a left leaning coalition or Labour Govt and the London riots kicked of where they did would the response have been more swift as the government may have had a greater degree of connection with the community and more inclined to be responsive.

    One New Years Eve about five or more years ago there was a giant brawl/riot in the Glen Innes shops and the police response was to let it wear itself out. The next day I looked for a news article and it was never reported.

    Auckland • Since Nov 2006 • 1201 posts Report Reply

  • Hard News: London's Burning, in reply to BenWilson,

    It was not an idea - It is not the way Capitalism or any of the isms gets out of a recession - it is what happened and will happen regardless of the prevailing "ism".
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    Auckland • Since Nov 2006 • 1201 posts Report Reply

  • Hard News: London's Burning, in reply to Sofie Bribiesca,

    In my role as a gnomic economist and commentator I consider a possible underlying message from Key is going to be, "You're own your own deal with it", the underlying message from the right. It would have been good if govts around the world had delivered that message to those banks and financial institutions that were responsible for caught up in the GFC.

    In my view the value of hard real assets would have plummeted much faster than the value of wages and the paper assets would have burnt and this would have created a better basis for a sustainable recovery and future. It is not as if those hard assets disappear or cease to be able to do what they did before the “recession”.

    Auckland • Since Nov 2006 • 1201 posts Report Reply

  • Hard News: London's Burning, in reply to BenWilson,

    Unsustainably high incomes leading to unrealistic expectations of constant growth, whilst at the same time being uncompetitive. It's a crisis they've been in for quite some time.

    This is a bit broad and unconnected, what is or where would you set an unsustainably high income and who gets paid it.

    In the context of Key and chums preparing to slash benefits in the name of reducing 'dependence

    Deepening the recession is the only way to get out of the recession – refer GST increase. The slashing of benefits will help foster the recovery in the longer term, it will work the same way that throwing human sacrifices into the volcano, time and time again, made it rain and stopped the crops from failing. Eventually you make a human sacrifice and it rains.

    Auckland • Since Nov 2006 • 1201 posts Report Reply

  • Hard News: London's Burning, in reply to Steve Barnes,

    Hmmmm Butt Joints

    Auckland • Since Nov 2006 • 1201 posts Report Reply

  • Hard News: London's Burning,

    Looking at a person's rights at law and insurance companies/corporates - It is a hall mark of the Key govt that they have been able to effectively extinghuish people rights at law as in the Leaky Home, ChCh quakes without too much of a fuss that I can see.

    It is about what you can get away with rather than doing the right thing the right way.

    Auckland • Since Nov 2006 • 1201 posts Report Reply

  • Hard News: London's Burning,

    Watching the footage shot by residents – the guy saying, “Get it real, you lot piss me the phuck off” I agree with; the footage ends with an assault victim being helped up and someone stealing from his bag.

    There is a massive humanity bypass all around – and that includes the political process. It is all about what YOU, (whether you are in public office or a rioting phuckhead) can get away with whatever the circumstances and it is ok if SOMEONE ELSE suffers the consequence.

    Auckland • Since Nov 2006 • 1201 posts Report Reply

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