That was beautiful
So hopefully we can all extend patience, empathy, humility etc towards one another.
That go for stephen joyce (and others) as well? :-))
Hey I know many of the religious persuasion try to live good lifes. But being as such, is not a guarantee. We all screw up. And if you'll excuse a generalization. Its when we have the best of intentions we'll screw up the most.
One thing I learnt from religion, people are at their best when they have a selfless common goal to unite them. Funnily enough when war broke out is a good example
Tho' there is a part of, not all of us, people thats easily swayed sometimes, to do dumb things. And when they get together ,phew!
People will cope with adverse conditions, man made at present, as best they are able.
Yeah they'll bludge, steal, con, accumulate obscene wealth and want forgiveness from some quarter. The human condition as it is said.
You want to help, great.
Just my opinion, but sometimes the powers that be take a too dominant role in our lives to our detriment. When we should be working together to solve our collective woes. Not locked into perpetuating a (lets be dramatic) death machine. And in NZand a few other places... now is one of those moments, they're just fleeting years, lifetimes... dunno.
I would never be able to satisfy your problems with the Christian faith.
Its not the Christian faith (I know you only speak for your own faith) its just that its such a common phenomenon in all cultures so maybe it isnt a god its in us.
So I have got my receiver turned off or what!
universal truth set by God (and implanted in various ways, such as culture).
It’s not an argument that I can spend much time with beyond this as it’s not something I have delved into much (and I can see a million different ways to contradict it, each of which would require answers I’m not overly qualified to give),
See thats just frustratingly vague. Lets just all close our eyes for a minute and look to the heavens. But it seems that is what this thing called faith is, a whole lot of airy answers to questions that need clarity. Anyhoo good luck with all that.
And good luck with your projects. I see your childhood was spent amongst the "faithful" I wonder how that shaped what you are now, obviously a lot, but probably in ways you may not be fully aware of.
I believe in the historical Jesus, that he was both divine and human,
Thats not the historical jesus, thats the mythic fella created when the Nicene creed was written.
Doing difference well starts with some simple concepts
Acceptance is probably more important than humility and whatever else you said.
civilising the barbarians
Now there's a cute phrase, loaded with all manner of nastiness.
Still going on I believe...
What I’m saying is some people disbelieve Dirty Politics, some people vote National and some people watch Seven Sharp
Some people…Cosy way of putting it I must say…
new idea that all people, rich or poor, are equal in the eyes of God, and it is by the purity of our soul and the goodness of our actions that we shall be judged in the afterlife.
Better tell that to Steven Joyce or maybe he’s god…
Sorry but christianity didnt invent this idea.
Anyway I’m getting sick of this all over again
So julie christie is still fucking people over. Some thing never change wrong thread hehe
earthquake event in the intellectual development of mankind.
Oh please enough with the hyperbole
When did slavery get abolished? Some 1800 yrs later.
Well almost, it seems to be making a comeback in some quarters
yeah Its a weird thing to come out with. Good ole Tom eh!
Just need a bit of knowledge and imagination to kinda put your mind back to those times..
Our minds didnt/havent changed that much in 2000yrs, just our circumstances.
And there is no pivot point where anyone can say that collectively our thought processes are different, or changed after it.
Whoa up there big fella! there never was any Christian revolution.
The residents of Galilee were mainly of the Jewish persuasion and didnt want to submit to Roman rule.They'd had enough of that from the Persians.
[On a side note It was never their land in perpetuity the ancestors of the then residents had taken it by brutal and very violent means. And somewhat shamelessly, recorded their conquest in what became the old testament].
But they were eventually forced into accepting it violently by a military commander going by the name of Vespasian, circa 70 AD. He later became a ruler(emperor) of the Roman Empire.
, that jesus ever existed.
Just being generous. Words is words is words. No one will ever know for sure :-) I'm A doubting Tomasino as well